Dayi Dragon Pole

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Dayi Dragon Pole

Postby berkeleyluddite » Jan 8th, '11, 02:51

I really like the 2010 Dragon Pole and bought some recently... I never end up getting the 2007 and 2009 when they were available. Can someone with experience tell me how much they are similar and different between vintages??? Thanks in advance!

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Re: Dayi Dragon Pole

Postby auhckw » Jan 8th, '11, 04:48

I never have 2007 or 2010... but i have the 2009 :)

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*my first ripe toong (14+1)

It was good, but I cannot compare it with the 2007 or 2010 version cause have never seen it at our local shops.

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Re: Dayi Dragon Pole

Postby shah82 » Jan 8th, '11, 12:43

Dragon Teahouse ebay store has the 2007 for $40 and the 2009 for $30. Star of Menghai is a relatively similar shu, so you might want to try that too. The usual "famous" Dayi shu is Golden Needle White Lotus, which is a bit more fruity and less "austere" than DP or SoM.

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Re: Dayi Dragon Pole

Postby bagua7 » May 15th, '12, 18:20

Yes, but at a price of $90 bucks for the '07 version...for just a cooked cake. :cry: Way overpriced for what really is.

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Re: Dayi Dragon Pole

Postby shah82 » May 15th, '12, 19:41

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2007-Menghai-Da ... 2ea9f1b3a2

total of $57 bucks.

Still waaaaaaaaaaaaay overpriced. Remember, this is slightly less than it costs to get equivalent amounts of XZH Nannuo gongting at HouDe, while it was for sale. Or a number of other very premium shu. Of course, only one XZH shu is now available, and that one is pretty expensive. About $80 for the same amount.

Better off to try some of that YS lincang shu, you tried any?

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Re: Dayi Dragon Pole

Postby HifideliTea » May 15th, '12, 21:45

I did an AB test whilst in Beijing. Bought a 2007, and asked the seller to make a brew for me right there at her shop. And she brewed a sample of the 2010 for comparison.

Due to age alone, the 2007 and 2010 does have a noticeable difference. The 2007 is smoother, less greenish, more mouth feel and better huigan.
The 2010 is no slouch either but when drunk side by side with the 2007, the differences are apparent.

I bought all her stock of 2007's.

I'm pretty certain the 2009 will be better than the 2010 too, and age has everything to do with it. (My assumption is that Taetea tea formulation is consistent, and it's the age and storage that makes the differences in it's characteristics over the years)

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Re: Dayi Dragon Pole

Postby shah82 » May 15th, '12, 22:02

Of the recipes started in 2005, I don't think Dayi has ever been that consistent.

There are major decreases in quality for all of the classic teas I can think of from 2005. GLWL, 7742, v93 shu, Star of Menghai, Mengsong Peacock (the only one with arbor leaves), Spring of Menghai, etc, nothing from 2006 were really as good. Or later. So I think Dayi does change recipes slightly from year to year. I have not had the 2007 GLWL in a very long time, but I've had the 2008 recently, and I'm not very fond of it...

Now, Dragon Pole, not so sure. I have the 2009, and I'm not particularly fond of it, but I do sorta like it. However, I like the 2007 Star of Menghai more, and the 7262, when it's well behaved.

It seems these days, the furor in China is over Lancang Millenial 0085 shus. You ever got a chance to try that, KC Lam?

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Re: Dayi Dragon Pole

Postby HifideliTea » May 15th, '12, 22:32

You mean this?
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I have tried them, but have never bought any....instead bought their 2005 and 2006 teas instead. Cannot recollect it's taste and feel now.

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Re: Dayi Dragon Pole

Postby shah82 » May 15th, '12, 23:48

Yup, I just have never seen the point.

It's made with decent-good Jingmai, or they say...

I've had a HLH Jingmai shu, which is nice, but not all that interesting. And these 0085s can cost quite a bit of money, from what I see.

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Re: Dayi Dragon Pole

Postby TwoDog2 » May 16th, '12, 02:58

shah82 wrote:http://www.ebay.com/itm/2007-Menghai-Dayi-Golden-Needle-White-Lotus-357g-/200419685282?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ea9f1b3a2

total of $57 bucks.

Still waaaaaaaaaaaaay overpriced.



Really, with Dayi, you are paying for the brand in most (if not all?) cases. Anything made in recent years is kind of unimpressive, for the price.

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Re: Dayi Dragon Pole

Postby gingkoseto » May 16th, '12, 11:07

TwoDog2 wrote:
shah82 wrote:http://www.ebay.com/itm/2007-Menghai-Dayi-Golden-Needle-White-Lotus-357g-/200419685282?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2ea9f1b3a2

total of $57 bucks.

Still waaaaaaaaaaaaay overpriced.



Really, with Dayi, you are paying for the brand in most (if not all?) cases. Anything made in recent years is kind of unimpressive, for the price.

I agree. I think Dayi is very interesting market phenomenon. It used to cater to ordinary people with stable quality. In recent years, it focuses a lot more on selling brand instead of selling product. But obviously it's doing much better (financially) than factories with similar historical style but is not selling brand as hard. But other big factories might be learning the lesson fast and follow the path.

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Re: Dayi Dragon Pole

Postby TwoDog2 » May 17th, '12, 03:27

gingkoseto wrote:In recent years, it focuses a lot more on selling brand instead of selling product.


Totally. Their products are well known in the domestic market and are very giftable. They know where the big money is. Fancy packaging with dragons and gold trim, and a well recognized brand. The tea is pretty average in most cases, and almost never worth the price.

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