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White tea puerh

Posted: May 25th, '11, 20:49
by skilfautdire
What would be the major opinion about aging white tea puerh ? Can it withstand aging or not ? In general terms.

Re: White tea puerh

Posted: May 25th, '11, 21:45
by shah82
no.

Re: White tea puerh

Posted: May 25th, '11, 21:47
by nickE
I've heard of it being done successfully, but I've never tried it.

Looks interesting, though. Here is one from YS this year. Also, I think The Tea Gallery has one as well.

Re: White tea puerh

Posted: May 25th, '11, 22:25
by debunix
The Yunnan Sourcing cake looks very similar to the 2007 White bud sheng puerh I adore so much from Norbu. Those cakes are also from Yong De material, and since I bought the first one almost 2 years ago, they have lost some of the smokiness that first attracted them to me, but retain a floral sweet camphorousness that is very pleasing. I bought several, and expect to enjoy them for a good few years yet at present rates of consumption. But there's nothing that seems likely to transmute into the earthiness and spiciness of a really fine aged puerh like the ones I've had from EofT.

Re: White tea puerh

Posted: May 26th, '11, 00:51
by gingkoseto
What's a white tea puerh?

Re: White tea puerh

Posted: May 26th, '11, 15:00
by TIM
YES!
Great for aging, if you can get the real one :D

Re: White tea puerh

Posted: May 26th, '11, 15:52
by shah82
How can you tell?

Re: White tea puerh

Posted: May 26th, '11, 16:06
by TIM
shah82 wrote:How can you tell?
Really!... hmmm
there is white puerh and there are silver needle buds. Apple and Orange :lol:

Re: White tea puerh

Posted: May 26th, '11, 16:10
by shah82
You're saying that Dabaicha and dabaicha-like teas age, but not buds?

Re: White tea puerh

Posted: May 26th, '11, 16:20
by TIM
shah82 wrote:You're saying that Dabaicha and dabaicha-like teas age, but not buds?
But you said "No" in aging potential, no?
http://www.yunnansourcing.com/blog/?p=43
enjoy ~ T

Re: White tea puerh

Posted: May 26th, '11, 16:43
by shah82
White tea, by definition, is fermented. Dabaicha isn't prefermented, if it's done properly, and I do have a single dabaicha that I enjoy very much and is aging.

I am more dubious about teas like this

http://www.yunnansourcing.com/store/pro ... oduct=1696

tho' it's probably done right at least. There are a lot of stories about buddy teas that age into something that isn't especially interesting out there, in many languages.

And then there are actually white tea puerhs out there. Banna sells a popular loose, for example. Those teas should be consumed when you open it up, isn't that right?

Re: White tea puerh

Posted: May 26th, '11, 16:47
by TIM
http://www.yunnansourcing.com/store/pro ... oduct=1696

This is not white puerh, its only silver buds. If someone is marketing this as white puerh, its misleading.

http://tiny.cc/s5bsd

Re: White tea puerh

Posted: Jun 9th, '12, 22:16
by zencha
...what about this ? : Aged Yunnan Silver Needle White Cake
http://verdanttea.com/teas/aged-yunnan- ... white-cak/

Re: White tea puerh

Posted: Jun 10th, '12, 00:21
by TIM
zencha wrote:...what about this ? : Aged Yunnan Silver Needle White Cake
http://verdanttea.com/teas/aged-yunnan- ... white-cak/
That's not a white tea or white puerh. It's just puerh buds.

Re: White tea puerh

Posted: Jun 10th, '12, 00:43
by gingkoseto
shah82 wrote:White tea, by definition, is fermented. Dabaicha isn't prefermented, if it's done properly, and I do have a single dabaicha that I enjoy very much and is aging.

I am more dubious about teas like this

http://www.yunnansourcing.com/store/pro ... oduct=1696
I think a confusion point is white tea and (da)baicha are verbally same but potentially quite different.
dabaicha (or literally "big white tea cultivar") is a cultivar name. The cultivar was traditionally used to make green tea instead of puerh.
White tea, in English, habitually means the tea category that follows certain processing method.
Silver needle in Yunnan, some is made with dabaicha cultivar, and some is made with introduced Fuding (of Fujian) cultivar. But usually when a Yunnan tea is called "silver needle", it follows white tea (the habitual meaning) processing method. But of course there is no law forbidding people to call other teas silver needle anyway.
So possibly the silver needle of the above link is made of dabaicha, possibly not. The description mentions "sun dried", possibly sun dried as white tea, or possibly sun dried as puerh. Names are always confusing and unreliable :wink: