Re: 'Oolong Puerh' processing
Posted: Feb 28th, '13, 16:20
I think splitting the thread would be a good move Chip - we've gotten a little off track with this one.
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Very interesting comparison!wyardley wrote:Well, I definitely prefer older tea which is smooth and has lost its bitterness and astringency, and where the tastes start to become integrated. That doesn't seem to happen without at least some period of humid storage to one degree or another.gingkoseto wrote:This is a bit surprising to me. Most dry-stored tea of 15-20 years old would taste mild enough for me. So either we have very different tastes or the 40-50 years old tea you had was rather an outlier?wyardley wrote: I have had old tea which have supposedly had only purely natural storage (though not in sealed bags), and even some of these are a bit too aggressive tasting for my taste sometimes, even after 40-50 years.
Depends on the tea, I guess, but I generally don't enjoy drinking 15-20 year old tea (i.e., mid to late 90s) which has been purely dry stored for its entire life. Some can taste good if the tea was pretty smooth to start with, but they don't taste "aged" to me, and some of it can be quite harsh, especially anything with tight compression (Xiaguan tuo, tiebing).
With older stuff, I've noticed that some huangyin, in particular (the purely raw ones) can be fairly bitter even after quite some time.
I have tried certain pu'ers (generally lower grade stuff) which have been stored sealed (though not vacuum sealed) to one degree or another, for example, late 80s / early 90s fangcha, mid-90s tuocha, and none have been pleasant experiences.
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I don't think there's one set of numbers that everyone would be able to agree on.lordsbm wrote:Wet storage refers to humidity above 80%, correct? So if it's lesser than 80%, it's consider natural. Dry being around 60-65% correct?
I think we really need to start a new thread on storage. This is way out of path?gasninja wrote:Just saw this blog post relating to bag storage. http://www.zhizhengtea.com/puerblog/tea-storage/
I will endeavor to do this.nada wrote:I think splitting the thread would be a good move Chip - we've gotten a little off track with this one.
Please do!TIM wrote:I think we really need to start a new thread on storage. This is way out of path?gasninja wrote:Just saw this blog post relating to bag storage. http://www.zhizhengtea.com/puerblog/tea-storage/
Okay, back on topic.TIM wrote:I think we really need to start a new thread on storage. This is way out of path?gasninja wrote:Just saw this blog post relating to bag storage. http://www.zhizhengtea.com/puerblog/tea-storage/
having you being reading the history of this topic, or you are being lazy?Tead Off wrote:Okay, back on topic.TIM wrote:I think we really need to start a new thread on storage. This is way out of path?gasninja wrote:Just saw this blog post relating to bag storage. http://www.zhizhengtea.com/puerblog/tea-storage/
I'm curious to know how you came to use this phrase 'oolong puerh'. Is it a term that you created or did you hear about this from someone else? It's an interesting concept, but like all concepts, fact and fiction intertwine. How much fact can be stated at present? I'd very much like to know.
Yes, I've been following along. My first question was very specific. Did you 'coin' this phrase or did you hear this expression from someone else? I think it's a very clever phrase and a very interesting discussion.TIM wrote:having you being reading the history of this topic, or you are being lazy?Tead Off wrote:Okay, back on topic.TIM wrote:I think we really need to start a new thread on storage. This is way out of path?gasninja wrote:Just saw this blog post relating to bag storage. http://www.zhizhengtea.com/puerblog/tea-storage/
I'm curious to know how you came to use this phrase 'oolong puerh'. Is it a term that you created or did you hear about this from someone else? It's an interesting concept, but like all concepts, fact and fiction intertwine. How much fact can be stated at present? I'd very much like to know.