Menghai shengs from tuochatea.com


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Re: Menghai shengs from tuochatea.com

Postby Exempt » Mar 21st, '14, 19:21

portabletea wrote:LOL i think i might jump the bandwagon too as my first purchase of pu-erh tea or any good tea other than some black teas from the middle east.
any particular ones that are (or should be pretty good?)

None of us are really sure whether these will be good or not yet. The prices on some of the teas are very low compared to what the price is now which is a bit suspect. If you want to take a leap specifically to get menghai puerh then go for it but you are obviously brand new to the world of puerh so I would recommend buying some samples from yunnansourcing or a similar company instead
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Re: Menghai shengs from tuochatea.com

Postby mr mopu » Mar 22nd, '14, 22:20

quikstep wrote:
mr mopu wrote:The 8582 is legit and aged very well. It is a very pleasant sheng with no off flavors or any hint of excess humidity. A friend of mine ordered the 7542 a whole tong. I can update you after his tong comes in if you wish. Feel free to message me if I can be of any assistance. 8)


i'm at least interested to know which batch number is this very good priced 2008 7542 :wink:

It was batch 809 on the tong of 7542.
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Re: Menghai shengs from tuochatea.com

Postby Exempt » Mar 22nd, '14, 23:58

mr mopu wrote:
quikstep wrote:
mr mopu wrote:The 8582 is legit and aged very well. It is a very pleasant sheng with no off flavors or any hint of excess humidity. A friend of mine ordered the 7542 a whole tong. I can update you after his tong comes in if you wish. Feel free to message me if I can be of any assistance. 8)


i'm at least interested to know which batch number is this very good priced 2008 7542 :wink:

It was batch 809 on the tong of 7542.

How was the storage?
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Re: Menghai shengs from tuochatea.com

Postby mr mopu » Mar 23rd, '14, 09:24

Exempt wrote:
mr mopu wrote:
quikstep wrote:
mr mopu wrote:The 8582 is legit and aged very well. It is a very pleasant sheng with no off flavors or any hint of excess humidity. A friend of mine ordered the 7542 a whole tong. I can update you after his tong comes in if you wish. Feel free to message me if I can be of any assistance. 8)


i'm at least interested to know which batch number is this very good priced 2008 7542 :wink:

It was batch 809 on the tong of 7542.

How was the storage?

I can't comment personally about the storage. The friend on mine that bought them said they taste ok.
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Re: Menghai shengs from tuochatea.com

Postby AllanK » Mar 24th, '14, 19:15

mr mopu wrote:
AllanK wrote:
solitude wrote:Tuochatea sells the 2008 Dayi 7542, 8582 and other blends for suspiciously low price. Did some of you have any experience with them?

http://www.tuochatea.com/factory-d2/menghai-c9/

How is touchatea.com. What are people's experiences wtih them. Their prices look excellent. How is their shipping?

They take about 9 or 10 weeks to delivery but their packaging for everything to arrive to you is really good. Lots of double wrap foam and each cake packed separately.

As their prices were unbeatable and your recommendation about Berylleb right on the mark I took the plunge and ordered from tuochatea.com this morning. I ordered several Dayi shu cakes that go for much more on other websites, as well as a couple of other cakes and bricks. They are being shipped SAL so I should be able to report back in about a month if they are good and worth the price. Time shall tell. Hopefully they will ship today. They should be waking up to my order about now.
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Re: Menghai shengs from tuochatea.com

Postby Puerlife » Mar 27th, '14, 23:48

I'm eagerly awaiting reviews of this site's stuff. Does anyone know if they've been offering such low prices for a long time? I've been wracking my brains for an explanation and came up with a few:
a)The owner died and the heirs are cashing in for a quick buck.
b)They are such good fakes that most people can't tell/don't care.
c)The vendor has discovered the power of dana, which the Buddha spoke so much about. He is endeavoring to live without desire for financial security in the future. He has seen through egoic needs and identification with wealth.
That's all I've got. I'm sure I've missed many possibilities. I sure hope it's 'c'. Feel free to add to the list while we all wait for reviews.
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Re: Menghai shengs from tuochatea.com

Postby shah82 » Mar 28th, '14, 00:13

Yes, they are real.

That shop has been around for at least eight years now. People have been getting factory tea from them a long time. They just never got very much notice because they never sold particularly good tea. They cater to actual tea drinkers, not frenzied speculators.
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Re: Menghai shengs from tuochatea.com

Postby Puerlife » Mar 28th, '14, 00:34

OK, thank you, Shah. Just how far has the quality fallen in typical Dayi sheng from, say 2003, 2004 to the later aughts?
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Re: Menghai shengs from tuochatea.com

Postby shah82 » Mar 28th, '14, 00:50

Mind you, I've never ordered from them. I just know they've been around a long time without people complaining about fakes.

As far as *normal* 7542, 8582, and their like, they are made a little redder back then as I understand it, and the leaf quality was a bit better. The really good stuff was when they were trying to make something special. The 2003 Jin Dayi is a lot more premium than the 2006 Pu Ti Yuan or JinSeYunXiang. The better later stuff like the '07 An Xiang sheng isn't as much better than a 7532 as say, a 7222, or one of the Dai cakes.
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Re: Menghai shengs from tuochatea.com

Postby Puerlife » Mar 28th, '14, 01:38

Thank you for explaining all that. I'm very new and need this level of nuance. I haven't had much factory sheng but I'm going to compare some soon with a very nice 'artisanal' one I just found in Penang. Watch this space :P
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Re: Menghai shengs from tuochatea.com

Postby Puerlife » Apr 6th, '14, 12:26

The 2007 7262 is $32 but the 2008 is only $24. Was '07 a better year?
Another question - 7262 vs. 7572, what's the difference? Is one clearly better? I've only had the latter.
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Re: Menghai shengs from tuochatea.com

Postby shah82 » Apr 6th, '14, 12:44

Shu does not typically vary very much, from year to year. Generally, the variance mostly comes from the first year it's made, and then subsequent production. Say the difference between the 2005 Dayi Golden Needle White Lotus and the 2008 version.

Prices tend to be silly games. They also tend to be a matter of when the shopkeep got the tea, and how aggressive the shopkeep raises prices. Once you hit five years or so, a year's difference doesn't count. If the 2008 7262 is cheaper, buy then, if you trust that the storage will be the same and that it's not a fake.
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Re: Menghai shengs from tuochatea.com

Postby Puerlife » Apr 7th, '14, 08:19

Thanks, Shah. BTW, I bought a 0532 201 for $19 last September and now it's $24 so maybe as you say the market has grown irrational.
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Re: Menghai shengs from tuochatea.com

Postby AllanK » Apr 10th, '14, 00:04

AllanK wrote:
mr mopu wrote:
AllanK wrote:
solitude wrote:Tuochatea sells the 2008 Dayi 7542, 8582 and other blends for suspiciously low price. Did some of you have any experience with them?

http://www.tuochatea.com/factory-d2/menghai-c9/

How is touchatea.com. What are people's experiences wtih them. Their prices look excellent. How is their shipping?

They take about 9 or 10 weeks to delivery but their packaging for everything to arrive to you is really good. Lots of double wrap foam and each cake packed separately.

As their prices were unbeatable and your recommendation about Berylleb right on the mark I took the plunge and ordered from tuochatea.com this morning. I ordered several Dayi shu cakes that go for much more on other websites, as well as a couple of other cakes and bricks. They are being shipped SAL so I should be able to report back in about a month if they are good and worth the price. Time shall tell. Hopefully they will ship today. They should be waking up to my order about now.

The package arrived today. I have not yet tried any of the teas but it was all there and well packed. The shipping was fast by SAL, only about two weeks. It was almost as fast as EMS for half the price. The two Dayi bings I bought both showed the mark under the blacklight. All seems good. If the tea tastes good I will be back for more in a month or so.
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Re: Menghai shengs from tuochatea.com

Postby TomVerlain » Apr 10th, '14, 07:27

I just bought a few cakes - the 2008 7542 seems like a good buy. Took a punt on the "Autumn Aroma", Haiwan Purple Bud and a few other.

The 2005 CNNP is cheap - It is Simao, which I am not familiar with as a puerh, so that might go either way, but most likely is a good daily drinker. It says 7581 style, but does not look like a mix of raw\ripe. Assuming it is completely ripe, 10 years of age must have evened it out abit.
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