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Re: ChaQi
Posted: Jul 19th, '10, 15:16
by alan logan
2 cents, 1 quote:
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cha qi; 茶气 - Tea nature. The inherent qualities in tea. That which makes it tea. Sometimes rather unsatisfactorily interpreted as 'tea energy'; translating qi as energy suggests (particularly for westerners) perhaps a rather too narrow idea of qi but it is an interesting term to consider since many westerners use the term. However, ideas and experiences of cha qi vary considerably; the taste of tea, the appearance of the leaves (particularly after steeping i.e. the life in the tea), any physical or psychological experiences one may have as a result of drinking tea are all aspects of cha qi. One cannot satisfactorily dissociate one from the other just as one cannot isolate sunshine from wind, which are both manifestations of weather, Tian Qi. If it did not have cha qi it wouldn't be tea, it would be something else. From a western point of view, cha qi is due, in some good part, to the presence of caffeine, theine, etc."
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http://www.zhizhengtea.com/glossary.html#c)
Re: ChaQi
Posted: Jul 19th, '10, 15:36
by TwoPynts
Very informative links zuesmta, thank you for that. I also found it interesting that augie claims that the same experience is possible through meditation. I find I can do that as well, though through focus and not the typical "letting go" of many meditation forms (without the sweating). For me though it ends as soon as I drop the focus while it is an involuntary state when you drink tea.
Re: ChaQi
Posted: Jul 19th, '10, 16:27
by nonc_ron
Thanks, I've made a copy for my desk top... So I can see it whenever.
Re: ChaQi
Posted: Jul 19th, '10, 16:32
by alan logan
while I'm at it,
not directly pertaining to the topic, but interesting too, these ones:
http://www.zhizhengtea.com/what_is_puer_tea.html
http://www.zhizhengtea.com/what_is_good_puer_tea.html
http://www.zhizhengtea.com/about_puer_tea.html
(pages do not display comfortably, so you may want to add
readability to your browser to get the text)
Re: ChaQi
Posted: Jul 20th, '10, 20:18
by bearsbearsbears
TwoPynts wrote:So is it an instant effect with certain teas or does it require drinking a certain amount?
Yes.
Re: ChaQi
Posted: Jul 20th, '10, 22:40
by TwoPynts
That wasn't a question that called for a one word response, as Zen as it may be...
Re: ChaQi
Posted: Jul 21st, '10, 00:01
by TIM
I am not sure if I can feel the qi from a regular tea bag, even I drink the whole box at once.... There is teabag, and there is Zen Tea.
Re: ChaQi
Posted: Jul 21st, '10, 11:54
by TwoPynts
TIM wrote:I am not sure if I can feel the qi from a regular tea bag, even I drink the whole box at once.... There is teabag, and there is Zen Tea.
I'm just guessing here, but in addition to a number of factors, I suspect the higher concentrations of L-theanine in quality teas play a big role in the qui. Tea bags likely contain very little.
Re: ChaQi
Posted: Jul 21st, '10, 13:06
by Maitre_Tea
bearsbearsbears wrote:TwoPynts wrote:So is it an instant effect with certain teas or does it require drinking a certain amount?
Yes.
+1
For some teas it is an "instant effect." I remember drinking a 30s sheng that calmed me the hell down. Power stuff.
On another occasion some friends and I partook in a sheng fest, and we powered through a dozen or so young sheng (<1). Even though some were definitely stinkers, by the end of it all I was completely wasted.
Re: ChaQi
Posted: Jul 21st, '10, 17:46
by TwoPynts
Maitre_Tea wrote:Even though some were definitely stinkers, by the end of it all I was completely wasted.
Hah! Don't let the young kids hear about that, they'll be buying up all of the good sheng!
Re: ChaQi
Posted: Jul 21st, '10, 18:01
by AdamMY
I'm flying from a particular young sheng right now, and I did not know young sheng can have this kind of effect!
Re: ChaQi
Posted: Jul 21st, '10, 18:52
by tingjunkie
TwoPynts- I think cha qi effects everyone differently. The more you "tune in" while drinking good tea, the more you will notice. The more experience you have noticing, the easier it will be to feel and recognize it in the future... unless you build up a qi tolerance of course!
Re: ChaQi
Posted: Jul 21st, '10, 19:08
by Maitre_Tea
TwoPynts wrote:Maitre_Tea wrote:Even though some were definitely stinkers, by the end of it all I was completely wasted.
Hah! Don't let the young kids hear about that, they'll be buying up all of the good sheng!
How do you think I started drinking tea
Re: ChaQi
Posted: Jul 21st, '10, 19:36
by TwoPynts
Doh!
Re: ChaQi
Posted: Feb 11th, '11, 07:32
by roygbiv
Yes, much has been said here about cha qi. But what about 'Ba Qi'? Is it no quarrel at all?:
http://www.puerhshop.com/blog/index.php?itemid=6