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About Brewing Dancongs - Gaiwan Vs. Yixing

Posted: Dec 7th, '10, 17:46
by bryan_drinks_tea
So what's the deal with Dancongs? I haven't found much info on which vessel to brew them in. I've been using a gaiwan, with dedicated pots for anxi oolongs and a pot for Yancha.

My questions are: Is this stuff brewed with the regular zhuni or zini pot?
Also, given that this stuff is usually a little greener looking while brewing, does this mean that one might use a thin walled pot?
Finally: What has worked for you when brewing Dancongs?



thanks.

Re: About Brewing Dancongs - Gaiwan Vs. Yixing

Posted: Dec 7th, '10, 18:07
by wyardley
I would check out these two threads:

http://www.teachat.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=13483
http://www.teachat.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=10870

You can also check out
http://tea-obsession.blogspot.com/2008/ ... -cong.html
if you haven't already.

I think whether you prefer porcelain or stoneware would have mostly to do with the exact tea, and whether you're looking more for fragrance or for texture / thickness. A thin porcelain gaiwan is a very good choice, though, IMHO, and much cheaper than a pot. While a pot is fun in its own way, with many dancongs I prefer the taste when brewed in a bone china gaiwan.

As far as pots go, I think some sort of red clay, whether a hong ni yixing or a Chaozhou pot is probably appropriate, but more because of tradition than because it will necessarily give better brewing performance. I don't personally agree that Chaozhou pots are more appropriate than Yixing pots, or that the fact that they come from the same area means they'll perform better, but at the least, they are a good and very appropriate choice for this style of tea.

Re: About Brewing Dancongs - Gaiwan Vs. Yixing

Posted: Dec 7th, '10, 18:34
by debunix
Still pretty new to these teas, only discovered them last year, and have enjoyed them in small cheap yixings, gaiwans, and a chao zhou pot. The chao zhou is new, not yet well broken in, so rounded off some of the spicy highlights in addition to moderating astringency, so how I brew them depends on whether I want them a bit more tamed (Chao Zhou) or zippy (gaiwan).

Re: About Brewing Dancongs - Gaiwan Vs. Yixing

Posted: Dec 7th, '10, 20:38
by NOESIS
Almost always a gaiwan.

Re: About Brewing Dancongs - Gaiwan Vs. Yixing

Posted: Dec 7th, '10, 21:33
by IPT
I use a well seasoned Zixia for my Dancong.

Re: About Brewing Dancongs - Gaiwan Vs. Yixing

Posted: Dec 7th, '10, 22:18
by Tead Off
I think wyardley answered it best. Personally, I get more flavor out of a clay pot. The tea feels fuller, deeper in my mouth with a pot. If there is a tendency to astringency in the tea, I will use a gaiwan but I can usually control this with brewing time. Most of the time when I'm feeling lazy, I will use the gaiwan. It's easy to clean!

Re: About Brewing Dancongs - Gaiwan Vs. Yixing

Posted: Dec 8th, '10, 05:04
by qiao2zhi4
thank to
i followed this instructions and i'm very happy with it, specially focusing on waterquality and temperature.
in lack of a chao zhou pot i'm using the gaiwan ... still trying
what dan congs are you drinking?

Re: About Brewing Dancongs - Gaiwan Vs. Yixing

Posted: Dec 8th, '10, 11:22
by Tead Off
Peach Nut from East Teas in London. Delicious, but expensive.

Here's a photo of the dry leaf. Nice big, whole leaves. Not too roasted.
Peach Nut Dancong.jpg
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Re: About Brewing Dancongs - Gaiwan Vs. Yixing

Posted: Dec 8th, '10, 18:53
by gingkoseto
This is excellent for dan cong too. :D
Image

Re: About Brewing Dancongs - Gaiwan Vs. Yixing

Posted: Dec 8th, '10, 19:10
by edkrueger
I have that pot. Just boiled it to make it no longer a pu-erh pot. Will give dancong a try in it.

Re: About Brewing Dancongs - Gaiwan Vs. Yixing

Posted: Dec 8th, '10, 22:28
by gingkoseto
edkrueger wrote:I have that pot. Just boiled it to make it no longer a pu-erh pot. Will give dancong a try in it.
I was actually struggling between puerh and oolong in use of this cute teapot :D Last week I used it for a xia guan brick with the most chopped leaves I've ever seen in a tea :o And this teapot functions perfectly!

Re: About Brewing Dancongs - Gaiwan Vs. Yixing

Posted: Dec 9th, '10, 06:25
by Herb_Master
gingkoseto wrote:
edkrueger wrote:I have that pot. Just boiled it to make it no longer a pu-erh pot. Will give dancong a try in it.
I was actually struggling between puerh and oolong in use of this cute teapot :D Last week I used it for a xia guan brick with the most chopped leaves I've ever seen in a tea :o And this teapot functions perfectly!
Chopped leaves - mmm

I have one of these small kyusu that is unused :idea: And have found one or two very chopped up teas to clog the outlets of my very small yixings - maybe I shall try it out.

Re: About Brewing Dancongs - Gaiwan Vs. Yixing

Posted: Dec 9th, '10, 11:30
by Alex
Tead Off wrote:Peach Nut from East Teas in London. Delicious, but expensive.

Here's a photo of the dry leaf. Nice big, whole leaves. Not too roasted.
Peach Nut Dancong.jpg
mmm that looks good.

Re: About Brewing Dancongs - Gaiwan Vs. Yixing

Posted: Dec 9th, '10, 22:56
by Tead Off
Interesting article on Dancong teas by Hojo posted on another thread. Worth the read. He also gives opinion on brewing vessels.

Re: About Brewing Dancongs - Gaiwan Vs. Yixing

Posted: Dec 13th, '10, 19:37
by bryan_drinks_tea
Thanks everyone! I can see all of the points you all have made here, and I think it's great. I also did some research through the info Imen had on her website. I figure my gaiwan will do for now.