Re: Taiwanese Oolongs, Spring 2013 Harvest
Posted: May 21st, '13, 12:25
Tead off and Tony: What is the taste or terroir character difference on the same varital between the 7km?
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In my experience, the higher elevations of DYL give a much more profound aroma and deeper flavor than the 98k. A good DYL should exhibit both fruit and body in it's taste without any harshness. Hard to really explain this. It is a very full tea on every level. I guess I really like this tea.TIM wrote:Tead off and Tony: What is the taste or terroir character difference on the same varital between the 7km?
Fascinating! Thanks for the info, Tead Off.Tead Off wrote:Sherbutse- They are km markers on the road that lead to the DYL peak. The higher the #, the higher the elevation.
I don't recall making claims about taste differences between different farms marked out by 7km of highway markers. And if I were to make taste claims, they would be about specific batches of teas. What I did claim, however, was that to the best of my knowledge the first teas from this region appeared only a few days ago.TIM wrote:Tead off and Tony: What is the taste or terroir character difference on the same varital between the 7km?
That's actually a common misconception. There isn't a strict positive correlation between the marker numbers and elevation.Tead Off wrote: The higher the #, the higher the elevation.
I didn't talked about taste comparison or anything but what I know is that first 98k appeared only few days before ..let say a week . Some vendors advertising and selling DLY already for more than few weeks.Tead Off wrote:Teafromtaiwan.com shows their DYL in stock for Spring 2013. Unless something has happened to them I wouldn't classify them as unreliable. I didn't talk to them personally, so I can't vouch if the tea is actually in their possession yet.Bad Jedi wrote:I think you answered your own question .... (in past reliable)KimChristian wrote:Huh...how come some (in the past reliable) vendors are offering thisSilentChaos wrote:[ I'm personally hoping that the sun will be shining .
year's DYL already ?
In good case DYL will be available in week from now , I mean highest zhen shan, first 98k showed up two days back from now .
98K doesn't compare to good DYL. And, 105k is not the only good DYL. I think Tony's offering from winter was a great value, certainly way less than 105k and delicious.
So, does further you are down the road mean lower in elevation?SilentChaos wrote:Tead Off wrote: The higher the # just mean the further you are down the road.
It just refers to how many km's further along this road: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Cr ... nd_Highwaysherubtse wrote:So, does further you are down the road mean lower in elevation?SilentChaos wrote:Tead Off wrote: The higher the # just mean the further you are down the road.
I'm still trying to understand what those 98k, etc numbers mean in relation to DYL.
Thanks.
Best wishes,
sherubtse
Thanks for the explanation and link. I think that I am finally "getting it".SilentChaos wrote:It just refers to how many km's further along this road: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Cr ... nd_Highwaysherubtse wrote:So, does further you are down the road mean lower in elevation?SilentChaos wrote:Tead Off wrote: The higher the # just mean the further you are down the road.
I'm still trying to understand what those 98k, etc numbers mean in relation to DYL.
Thanks.
Best wishes,
sherubtse
As far as I know, this whole km marker business is quite a recent thing.
You are getting it and I am getting more confused! LOL. If we don't use those markers as elevation landmarks, then each vendor should tell you at what elevation the teas they are selling are grown at. The 105k has become something of a legend. I think Tony is right when he says the individual farms will be responsible for how good the tea is but there is something to be said for the higher elevations, and the Lin farm at 105k is pretty high up. I still stand by my description of the profile of what I consider good DYL.sherubtse wrote:Thanks for the explanation and link. I think that I am finally "getting it".SilentChaos wrote:It just refers to how many km's further along this road: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Cr ... nd_Highwaysherubtse wrote:So, does further you are down the road mean lower in elevation?SilentChaos wrote:Tead Off wrote: The higher the # just mean the further you are down the road.
I'm still trying to understand what those 98k, etc numbers mean in relation to DYL.
Thanks.
Best wishes,
sherubtse
As far as I know, this whole km marker business is quite a recent thing.
Best wishes,
sherubtse
Have you try Lin's DYL? How would you compare his and others around 105?Tead Off wrote:You are getting it and I am getting more confused! LOL. If we don't use those markers as elevation landmarks, then each vendor should tell you at what elevation the teas they are selling are grown at. The 105k has become something of a legend. I think Tony is right when he says the individual farms will be responsible for how good the tea is but there is something to be said for the higher elevations, and the Lin farm at 105k is pretty high up. I still stand by my description of the profile of what I consider good DYL.sherubtse wrote:Thanks for the explanation and link. I think that I am finally "getting it".SilentChaos wrote:It just refers to how many km's further along this road: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Cr ... nd_Highwaysherubtse wrote:So, does further you are down the road mean lower in elevation?SilentChaos wrote:Tead Off wrote: The higher the # just mean the further you are down the road.
I'm still trying to understand what those 98k, etc numbers mean in relation to DYL.
Thanks.
Best wishes,
sherubtse
As far as I know, this whole km marker business is quite a recent thing.
Best wishes,
sherubtse
I haven't bought Lin's in some years. My most recent DYL's have come from Origin Tea, Wang De Chuan, & TFT, with TFT probably being slightly better. Can't remember if I tried T-Oolong's. Hard to beat Origin's price for value on the winter 2012. I could never decide if winter is better than Spring/Summer. Some think the flavor is deeper in winter. On rare occasion, I've had Li Shan that rivaled DYL. Lin's is very pricey and they have the marketing hype behind them as being the highest DYL farm. I would ask Tony what he thinks are the more distinguished farms.TIM wrote:Have you try Lin's DYL? How would you compare his and others around 105?Tead Off wrote:You are getting it and I am getting more confused! LOL. If we don't use those markers as elevation landmarks, then each vendor should tell you at what elevation the teas they are selling are grown at. The 105k has become something of a legend. I think Tony is right when he says the individual farms will be responsible for how good the tea is but there is something to be said for the higher elevations, and the Lin farm at 105k is pretty high up. I still stand by my description of the profile of what I consider good DYL.sherubtse wrote:Thanks for the explanation and link. I think that I am finally "getting it".SilentChaos wrote:It just refers to how many km's further along this road: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Cr ... nd_Highwaysherubtse wrote:So, does further you are down the road mean lower in elevation?SilentChaos wrote:Tead Off wrote: The higher the # just mean the further you are down the road.
I'm still trying to understand what those 98k, etc numbers mean in relation to DYL.
Thanks.
Best wishes,
sherubtse
As far as I know, this whole km marker business is quite a recent thing.
Best wishes,
sherubtse
As I understand what Tony said, the markers are for distance along a road, not necessarily elevation. (Of course I could have misunderstood the whole thing, and didn't really "get it" after all. )Tead Off wrote:If we don't use those markers as elevation landmarks, then each vendor should tell you at what elevation the teas they are selling are grown at.