Fri/Sat TeaDay 8/5-6/11 Water measurements?


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Yesterday we discussed how we determined how much leaf, today we discuss how we determine how much water, sometimes there are some "tricks" we use. Please share your methods.

I measure water, precisely
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The pot size determines the amount of water, no measuring
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The cup(s) size(s) determine how much water
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I eyeball how much water
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Other
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Fri/Sat TeaDay 8/5-6/11 Water measurements?

Postby Chip » Aug 4th, '11, 01:25

Greetings TeaFriends and welcome to another TeaDay. Please drop in and share what is in your cup with us. Also please discuss the day's topic.

Yesterday we discussed how we "measure" leaf for brewing. Please continue to discuss yesterday's topic.

Today's TeaPoll and discussion topic. Yesterday we discussed how we determined how much leaf, today we discuss how we determine how much water, sometimes there are some "tricks" we use. Please share your methods.

We are looking forward to sharing this TeaDay with everyone. Bottoms up.
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Re: Friday TeaDay 8/5/11 Water measurements?

Postby Chip » Aug 5th, '11, 00:52

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Re: Friday TeaDay 8/5/11 Water measurements?

Postby JBaymore » Aug 5th, '11, 09:57

The pot determines the amount of leaf.... then the water "matches" to the pot. The two are "interconnected" relationships.

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Re: Friday TeaDay 8/5/11 Water measurements?

Postby Chip » Aug 5th, '11, 10:39

I use a "cheat sheet" for sencha. The yuzamashi (water cooler) I use 90% of the time has iron spots in the glaze. I know where 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 ounce spots are on the inside of the yuzamashi.

I determine how much tea liquid I want to brew before picking the appropriate pot, then use the yuzamashi spots for the right amount of water.

For gyokuro, I more often use the volume of 1-2 small gyokuro cups to determine/measure how much liquid I will use.

For other teas, I would say the pot size more determines how much water I will use as I approach these teas much more casually.

Began the TD with Miyabi with the Mrs. I predetermined I needed 5 ounces of water and filled the yuzamashi to the 5 ounce spot. :mrgreen:
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Re: Friday TeaDay 8/5/11 Water measurements?

Postby debunix » Aug 5th, '11, 10:53

The pot determines the amount of water, although it may get filled a bit more or less full to adjust if the quantity of leaf is a bit high or low. I do measure the capacity of my cups and pots quite carefully when I first get them, and have that quantity in mind as I prepare the leaf for each brewing, whether weighing or eyeballing.

This morning, brewing up some An Ji 'white tea' in my marvelous Petr Novak shiboridashi, which holds 90 mL, 2-3 grams of tea, pouring it into the matching yuzamushi, and thence into a small yunomi holding barely 90 mL, and drunk with great enjoyment.
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Re: Friday TeaDay 8/5/11 Water measurements?

Postby strickmr » Aug 5th, '11, 14:13

My pot definitely determines the amount of water used. I can kind of eyeball my yasamushi and my 8 oz pot is perfect for a typical coffee cup or half full for a good sencha cup.
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Re: Friday TeaDay 8/5/11 Water measurements?

Postby brlarson » Aug 5th, '11, 14:44

+4. The pot determines the amount of water.

I've been drinking mostly Japanese greens lately -- shincha from Zencha (The Ultimate) and O-Cha (Aoi), gyokuro from Ippodo, temomicha from Kaburagien -- so I've been brewing in a 100ml houhin. For the temomicha I add water slowly until the leaves are covered; I really could use a shibouridashi.
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Re: Friday TeaDay 8/5/11 Water measurements?

Postby Chip » Aug 5th, '11, 14:58

brlarson wrote: I add water slowly until the leaves are covered; I really could use a shibouridashi.

Petr has a few last I looked!
http://www.teachat.com/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=12296

Wellll, one ...
https://picasaweb.google.com/keramikakcaji/AvailableNow#

But he will make you one, he is very accommodating!

EDIT: oh here are some he made recently as part of a TC TA SO!

http://s285.photobucket.com/albums/ll60/Teamaan/TC%20TA%20SO%20Petr/TC%20TA%20SO%20Petr%20Shiboridashi/

They can also be viewed in the actual topic under SOs.
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Re: Friday TeaDay 8/5/11 Water measurements?

Postby brlarson » Aug 5th, '11, 15:36

Chip wrote:
brlarson wrote:... I really could use a shibouridashi.

Petr has a few last I looked!
...
Wellll, one ...
...
But he will make you one, he is very accommodating!


They are really beautiful pieces but they're as deep as my hohin.
I need (want) a shibouridashi that is wide and very shallow, like this:
http://www.tokoname.or.jp/teapot/yosiki04.htm

But I appreciate your suggestion. I have been admiring Petr's work for quite a while.
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Re: Friday TeaDay 8/5/11 Water measurements?

Postby Chip » Aug 5th, '11, 16:15

brlarson wrote:
Chip wrote:
brlarson wrote:... I really could use a shibouridashi.

Petr has a few last I looked!
...
Wellll, one ...
...
But he will make you one, he is very accommodating!


They are really beautiful pieces but they're as deep as my hohin.
I need (want) a shibouridashi that is wide and very shallow, like this:
http://www.tokoname.or.jp/teapot/yosiki04.htm

But I appreciate your suggestion. I have been admiring Petr's work for quite a while.

Yeah, they are not the uber wide versions, however he would likely make you one! :idea:

Compared to the 5 houjins I have used here, the Petr shibs are a bit shallower and wider and allow much better viewing, but nothing compared to the extreme versions as you shared. :mrgreen:
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Re: Friday TeaDay 8/5/11 Water measurements?

Postby Chip » Aug 6th, '11, 02:13

Yesterday is today ... as in yesterday's TeaDay topic is carried over to today.

So, please share what is in your cup throughout the day.

Aslo continue to discuss yesterday's topic.

Or start your own discussion here, this is our TeaRoom.

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Re: Fri/Sat TeaDay 8/5-6/11 Water measurements?

Postby Chip » Aug 6th, '11, 14:48

Began the TeaDay with Hana No Kaori on a cool rainy day.

Is anyone else drinking tea today? :mrgreen:
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Re: Fri/Sat TeaDay 8/5-6/11 Water measurements?

Postby jaderabbit » Aug 6th, '11, 14:50

Size of cup, gaiwan, or teapot determines how much leaf. And then I just pour enough water to suit the vessel and leaf volume. So I suppose eyeballing and instinct are my techniques. :D
I had the last of my most beloved 338 Dong Ding today. I don't know if I'll ever have dong ding as good as that again.
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Re: Fri/Sat TeaDay 8/5-6/11 Water measurements?

Postby entropyembrace » Aug 6th, '11, 16:31

Something strange woke my gf and I up early this morning. One of her amplifiers suddenly recieved a strong radio signal, weird thing...it wasn´t plugged into an antenna or anything to revieve signals. It suddenly started very loud and gradually declined...it sounded something like thunder or heavy machinery or both. When it finally ended we were both sitting awake trying to figure out what the heck just happened and I suggested we check the solar weather. So we went on to the NASA site Spaceweather.com and sure enough there was a Coronal Mass Ejection (CME) from the sun and an ongoing magnetic storm....they said the strongest one in many years. Strong CME´s can really mess up electronics on Earth and what we heard was high frequency radio interference from the sun directly activating her amplifier.

Also Auroa would have been spectacular last night did anyone catch them?
It was cloudy here so we didn´t get to see :(

Or did anyone else notice something strange from their gadgets?
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Re: Fri/Sat TeaDay 8/5-6/11 Water measurements?

Postby JRS22 » Aug 6th, '11, 18:05

I usually eyeball the water after measuring the tea, but only after learning the "watermark" for each vessel. The exception is Gyokuro. I have a shiboridashi set that's large enough for two cups, so when I'm just making one cup I measure out the water in one of the cups. If I'm making two cups then the water cooler is just the right size (on purpose, of course).

No tea today. I'm at my sister's home and I've forgotten to replenish her tea supply. Time to "gift" her some 2011 tea.
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