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Re: NEWEST CHAPTER! Show Off Your Pots and Cups XVI
Posted: Jun 24th, '11, 10:14
by debunix
So glad the shibo arrived ok! Those delicate bits of crawling glaze worried me a bit.
And when do we get pictures of your baby in use with some gyokuro?
Re: NEWEST CHAPTER! Show Off Your Pots and Cups XVI
Posted: Jun 24th, '11, 11:09
by lkj23
debunix wrote:So glad the shibo arrived ok! Those delicate bits of crawling glaze worried me a bit.
And when do we get pictures of your baby in use with some gyokuro?
hahahhahah yes, very delicate bits of glaze, but is in perfec condition, very well packaged, thank you again.
I want to use now, I can´t wait. Petr´r recommendations are put hot water which I have done after receive and wait at least one night to dry
noooooooooo!!! one day more. I´m anxious to try it and to discover gyokuro taste
The glace of the cup after puting hot water began to cracked, very nice effect.
Re: NEWEST CHAPTER! Show Off Your Pots and Cups XVI
Posted: Jun 24th, '11, 12:45
by tieguanyinfan
Re: NEWEST CHAPTER! Show Off Your Pots and Cups XVI
Posted: Jun 24th, '11, 12:54
by TIM
The first one is good sand Tieguany ~ T
Re: NEWEST CHAPTER! Show Off Your Pots and Cups XVI
Posted: Jun 24th, '11, 13:04
by tieguanyinfan
TIM wrote:The first one is good sand Tieguany ~ T
Sorry I'm not quite up to par on the specifics of zisha, could you explain about the good sand?
Re: NEWEST CHAPTER! Show Off Your Pots and Cups XVI
Posted: Jun 24th, '11, 13:08
by TIM
tieguanyinfan wrote:TIM wrote:The first one is good sand Tieguany ~ T
Sorry I'm not quite up to par on the specifics of zisha, could you explain about the good sand?
zi = purple, sha = sand.
Sand is a better grade then clay = ni
Most of the yixing now-a-day is made of clay rather then sand. But vendors will still call it sha.
The darker one is a ni, not clay and it could be a Taiwanese or Chiu Chow wheel turned clay.
Re: NEWEST CHAPTER! Show Off Your Pots and Cups XVI
Posted: Jun 24th, '11, 13:15
by tieguanyinfan
TIM wrote:tieguanyinfan wrote:TIM wrote:The first one is good sand Tieguany ~ T
Sorry I'm not quite up to par on the specifics of zisha, could you explain about the good sand?
zi = purple, sha = sand.
Sand is a better grade then clay = ni
Most of the yixing now-a-day is made of clay rather then sand. But vendors will still call it sha.
The darker one is a ni, not clay and it could be a Taiwanese or Chiu Chow wheel turned clay.
Ah I see. I guess it was a good thing to buy the other/last teapot (you can see it in the background). At first I was hesitant since it was covered in what seemed like 10 years of dust. It was pretty hard to scrub off the dust, did about 3-4 rounds of scrubbing.
Re: NEWEST CHAPTER! Show Off Your Pots and Cups XVI
Posted: Jun 25th, '11, 05:00
by IPT
TIM wrote:
zi = purple, sha = sand.
Sand is a better grade then clay = ni
Most of the yixing now-a-day is made of clay rather then sand. But vendors will still call it sha.
The darker one is a ni, not clay and it could be a Taiwanese or Chiu Chow wheel turned clay.
The terminology here is a bit different than in the west. Here, in China, the teapots are never called Yixing. Yixing is the city they are made in and it does not refer to the tea ware made there. Instead, all pottery made in Yixing are called zisha, whether it be tea pots, teacups, tea pets, or even statues, and no matter what clay is used.
Zini, Zhuni, Duanni, and Benshanlvni, to name a few, are all different clay types, but they all fall under the name of Zisha. No matter what the quality, a Zhuni teapot would be called Zhuni, for the clay type, and never calle Zhusha. Zhusha, is actually cinnabar used in making red lacquer.
I know in the West, a lot of people call them Yixing, but you would not hear that term here. Just a bit from the Chinese side of it for you.
Re: NEWEST CHAPTER! Show Off Your Pots and Cups XVI
Posted: Jun 25th, '11, 10:18
by Nenugal
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Sencha in my Shawn/Greenwoodstudio senchawan. I really like this one, very nice shape and a beautiful glaze.
Re: NEWEST CHAPTER! Show Off Your Pots and Cups XVI
Posted: Jun 25th, '11, 10:42
by lkj23
Very nice
Senchawan¿? is smaller than chawan?
Anyone know if tea bowl is the same as chawan?, I see a lot of tea bowls that seems chawans
Re: NEWEST CHAPTER! Show Off Your Pots and Cups XVI
Posted: Jun 25th, '11, 11:03
by Nenugal
lkj23 wrote:Very nice
Senchawan¿? is smaller than chawan?
Anyone know if tea bowl is the same as chawan?, I see a lot of tea bowls that seems chawans
Thanks! If I understand correctly, wan (or o-wan) means bowl, so chawan is directly translated teabowl, but the chawan name is primarily used for matcha bowls. I don't know how common the sencha wan name is, but I use it to distinguish low bowl-shaped sencha cups from taller cups ("yunomi"). This one is approximately 235 ml, 9 cm wide and 6 cm high. That is smaller than a normal chawan, although shape-wise it would be fine for that, however the size is very nice for sencha.
In my experience (experts please correct me if I'm missing something), a typical chawan is usually around 11-14 cm wide and 6-9 cm tall depending on the shape, but then there are different types like the summer type (hira-chawan) that is wider and lower, winter type (tsutsu-chawan) that is taller and narrower, and picnic/outdoors (nodate/ippuku) chawan that is usually both narrower (~10 cm) and lower than the "normal" chawan. So this sencha-wan could also be used as a nodate chawan, I guess
EDIT: I see now that the etsy description of this cup actually said "teabowl". If I understand correctly, people use the term teabowl for anything bowlshaped that can contain tea (including but not limited to matcha)
Re: NEWEST CHAPTER! Show Off Your Pots and Cups XVI
Posted: Jun 25th, '11, 11:13
by lkj23
Thank you very much!!! very well explained. It seems that winter and summer shapes are to cool or to keep warm the tea.
I learn something everyday with this forum
Re: NEWEST CHAPTER! Show Off Your Pots and Cups XVI
Posted: Jun 25th, '11, 12:36
by GreenwoodStudio
Thanks for posting Nenugal
Glad your liking it. That glaze is nearly impossible to photograph well.
Re: NEWEST CHAPTER! Show Off Your Pots and Cups XVI
Posted: Jun 25th, '11, 12:51
by lkj23
Re: NEWEST CHAPTER! Show Off Your Pots and Cups XVI
Posted: Jun 26th, '11, 11:46
by lkj23