Antique/Vintage Tea and Tea Ware


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Re: Antique/Vintage Tea and Tea Ware

Postby IPT » Nov 14th, '11, 21:13

That is an interesting piece Night Owl. Does it have a lid?
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Re: Antique/Vintage Tea and Tea Ware

Postby JRS22 » Nov 14th, '11, 23:13

IPT wrote:It was in the 90's when gaiwans started to become small and used as teapots, something I do not like, but that is another issue. :lol:
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The 1990s?

If not gaiwans, then what's your teaware preference for 'single' servings of Chinese greens?
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Re: Antique/Vintage Tea and Tea Ware

Postby IPT » Nov 15th, '11, 02:54

Yes, it was in the 1990's when gaiwans got small.

I use gaiwans for brewing and drinking green teas. I meant I do not like the little gaiwans that are used like teapots. The type meant to brew tea and then pour it out into a pitcher, or teacups. I do not care for those.
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Re: Antique/Vintage Tea and Tea Ware

Postby Ludwig-1954 » Nov 15th, '11, 14:01

Good evening IPT

Thank you very much for your valuable information. I was aware of the
legend of the young lady Cui Ning with the sensitive fingertips, I recall
she used a wood platter covered withbwax to fix the cup.

Saucers have been known in Europe from a very early date in Teacups,
typical examples may be found at the Meissen Museum (early 17th century). Early ones are usually rather deep bowls without shaping to hold
or guard a teacup (usually handled, no lid).
These Saucers were mainly used as a drinking device, the tea or coffee would be poured from cup to saucer, indicating that loose tea could have been in the cup (apart from the cooling effect). The custom still exsts in
Russia, Iran and parts of Turkey.
Lidded cups were produced at the same time, including a saucer with an
inside high rim (comparable to the song dynasty cup holders). They are
called "trembleuses" - tremblers, shakers - and were often used to serve
cocoa or coffee, more rarely tea, to nobility in bed (by illness, sleep or
other reasons ;-) ). Lying in bed is a notoriously unstable position to imbibe hot beverages, therefore the trembling.

The observation of the high foot in older gaiwans is most interesting and
very plausible. It would also explain the comparatively low and uncomfortable low rims/handles on their lids - ideal for pushing the lid but
awful for taking it off ...

I hope the thread will be continued, maybe we will find interesting insights
to chinese tea culture. I will post pictures of typical old teacups and a
trembleuse as soon as I have figured out how to post pictures. Until then I
remain
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Re: Antique/Vintage Tea and Tea Ware

Postby IPT » Nov 15th, '11, 21:23

Hello Patrick,

I look forward to seeing your photos!
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Re: Antique/Vintage Tea and Tea Ware

Postby TIM » Nov 17th, '11, 12:37

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HK $5.17 millions for a Gu Jingzhou Yixing pot. And HK $20.12 millions for a yellow soap stone! I did pick the pot over many times :lol:
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Re: Antique/Vintage Tea and Tea Ware

Postby TIM » Nov 17th, '11, 13:09

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Summer Tea cups for sencha by 靑嵐. How I miss the warm summer....
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Re: Antique/Vintage Tea and Tea Ware

Postby David R. » Nov 17th, '11, 20:00

Beautiful.
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Re: Antique/Vintage Tea and Tea Ware

Postby togei » Nov 17th, '11, 20:08

If you would like to look at the catalog for an upcoming auction of Chinese antiques dating from the Bronze age on have a look at the Art Domu site. It is only in Chinese and Japanese, here is the link to the Japanese main site, http://www.art-domu.jp/ and here is the link to the online catalog for the upcoming auction, http://www.art-domu.cn/catalog/#page=1
If you are in Japan I know they will send a catalog if it isn't too late, outside of Japan I don't know for sure.
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Re: Antique/Vintage Tea and Tea Ware

Postby IPT » Nov 17th, '11, 20:43

Beautiful cups Tim!
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Re: Antique/Vintage Tea and Tea Ware

Postby MarshalN » Nov 18th, '11, 01:16

For those of you who haven't seen this on my blog

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Re: Antique/Vintage Tea and Tea Ware

Postby IPT » Nov 18th, '11, 09:46

OH my goodness! I love that pot! I truly do!

Where on earth did you find somebody to do the staples? I have an original antique tool box with tools for doing them and have always liked them. I have quite a few porcelain pieces that have them. I have a couple of broken pieces which would look fantastic with them!

The cup is quite beautiful too!

Hey Chip, where is the drooling smiley?
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Re: Antique/Vintage Tea and Tea Ware

Postby David R. » Nov 19th, '11, 22:08

Back from London where I went to a couple of museums.

I took hundreds of photos. This is a small album with photos from the 6th floor of the V&A Museum, where antiques are piled up on shelves. There are A LOT of them in half a dozen rooms.

This album is composed of photos taken from 2 shelves, the one I prefered...
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Re: Antique/Vintage Tea and Tea Ware

Postby the_economist » Nov 19th, '11, 23:26

crap i must've missed this the last time i went...
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Re: Antique/Vintage Tea and Tea Ware

Postby MarshalN » Nov 20th, '11, 23:16

IPT wrote:OH my goodness! I love that pot! I truly do!

Where on earth did you find somebody to do the staples? I have an original antique tool box with tools for doing them and have always liked them. I have quite a few porcelain pieces that have them. I have a couple of broken pieces which would look fantastic with them!

The cup is quite beautiful too!

Hey Chip, where is the drooling smiley?


Alas, I didn't find someone to do it - I bought it broken with repair.

I'm not sure if anybody still knows how to do it now.
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