Antique/Vintage Tea and Tea Ware


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Re: Antique/Vintage Tea and Tea Ware

Postby William » Aug 17th, '14, 03:33

wert wrote:
Fabien wrote:End of the day with a nice Da hong pao, in an old gaiwan. Relaxing!
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Imari? Kuntani?
I am more interested in the couple of shuiping in the background, looks like good stuff. More photos? :D


If you refer to the gaiwan, it is not japanese stuff.
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Re: Antique/Vintage Tea and Tea Ware

Postby Fabien » Aug 17th, '14, 05:45

William wrote:
wert wrote:
Fabien wrote: End of the day with a nice Da hong pao, in an old gaiwan. Relaxing!
Imari? Kuntani? I am more interested in the couple of shuiping in the background, looks like good stuff. More photos? :D
If you refer to the gaiwan, it is not japanese stuff.

As William already stated it's chinese and not japanese, probably from mid to late Qing period and for sure after Qianlong reign (4-character Qianlong red stamped mark is usually indicating a later period).
As far as I know, this coral red porcelain, with a chrysanthemum scalloped shape and a wide hollow saucer would point it out to circa 1900, Guangxu period.

But that's just an educated guess, I'm no expert at all. If anyone has more infos or guesses, feel free to chime in, I'm always interested to know what I'm drinking in :D
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Re: Antique/Vintage Tea and Tea Ware

Postby Fabien » Aug 17th, '14, 06:22

wert wrote:
Fabien wrote:End of the day with a nice Da hong pao, in an old gaiwan. Relaxing! Imari? Kuntani?
I am more interested in the couple of shuiping in the background, looks like good stuff. More photos? :D
About thoses Shui ping I've already posted some photos here : http://www.teachat.com/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=11539&p=246423#p246423 and there : http://www.teachat.com/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=11539&p=246427#p246427
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Re: Antique/Vintage Tea and Tea Ware

Postby William » Aug 17th, '14, 08:04

Fabien wrote:
William wrote:
wert wrote:
Fabien wrote: End of the day with a nice Da hong pao, in an old gaiwan. Relaxing!
Imari? Kuntani? I am more interested in the couple of shuiping in the background, looks like good stuff. More photos? :D
If you refer to the gaiwan, it is not japanese stuff.

As William already stated it's chinese and not japanese, probably from mid to late Qing period and for sure after Qianlong reign (4-character Qianlong red stamped mark is usually indicating a later period).
As far as I know, this coral red porcelain, with a chrysanthemum scalloped shape and a wide hollow saucer would point it out to circa 1900, Guangxu period.

But that's just an educated guess, I'm no expert at all. If anyone has more infos or guesses, feel free to chime in, I'm always interested to know what I'm drinking in :D


Agree. Probably late Qing dynasty. Capacity of 150/200ml?
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Re: Antique/Vintage Tea and Tea Ware

Postby Fabien » Aug 17th, '14, 09:52

William wrote:
Fabien wrote: As William already stated it's chinese and not japanese, probably from mid to late Qing period and for sure after Qianlong reign (4-character Qianlong red stamped mark is usually indicating a later period).
As far as I know, this coral red porcelain, with a chrysanthemum scalloped shape and a wide hollow saucer would point it out to circa 1900, Guangxu period.

But that's just an educated guess, I'm no expert at all. If anyone has more infos or guesses, feel free to chime in, I'm always interested to know what I'm drinking in :D

Agree. Probably late Qing dynasty. Capacity of 150/200ml?
Exactly, 160ml with leaves, 180ml without.
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Re: Antique/Vintage Tea and Tea Ware

Postby William » Aug 17th, '14, 10:08

Fabien wrote:
William wrote:
Fabien wrote: As William already stated it's chinese and not japanese, probably from mid to late Qing period and for sure after Qianlong reign (4-character Qianlong red stamped mark is usually indicating a later period).
As far as I know, this coral red porcelain, with a chrysanthemum scalloped shape and a wide hollow saucer would point it out to circa 1900, Guangxu period.

But that's just an educated guess, I'm no expert at all. If anyone has more infos or guesses, feel free to chime in, I'm always interested to know what I'm drinking in :D

Agree. Probably late Qing dynasty. Capacity of 150/200ml?
Exactly, 160ml with leaves, 180ml without.


I have never found one of 120ml or smaller. I am just dreaming! :mrgreen:
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Re: Antique/Vintage Tea and Tea Ware

Postby wert » Aug 17th, '14, 10:24

Thanks Fabien and William for sharing and helping me learn!
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Re: Antique/Vintage Tea and Tea Ware

Postby chrl42 » Aug 17th, '14, 23:24

Fabien wrote:
wert wrote:
Fabien wrote:End of the day with a nice Da hong pao, in an old gaiwan. Relaxing! Imari? Kuntani?
I am more interested in the couple of shuiping in the background, looks like good stuff. More photos? :D
About thoses Shui ping I've already posted some photos here : http://www.teachat.com/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=11539&p=246423#p246423 and there : http://www.teachat.com/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=11539&p=246427#p246427

Looks like those 90s series....but compared to now...now is even harder to follow that 90's quality..

btw..it's really an exquisite Gaiwan . High-end antique porcenlains only stay in Europe :D
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Re: Antique/Vintage Tea and Tea Ware

Postby kyarazen » Aug 18th, '14, 00:42

chrl42 wrote:
Fabien wrote:
wert wrote:
Fabien wrote:End of the day with a nice Da hong pao, in an old gaiwan. Relaxing! Imari? Kuntani?
I am more interested in the couple of shuiping in the background, looks like good stuff. More photos? :D
About thoses Shui ping I've already posted some photos here : http://www.teachat.com/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=11539&p=246423#p246423 and there : http://www.teachat.com/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=11539&p=246427#p246427

Looks like those 90s series....but compared to now...now is even harder to follow that 90's quality..

btw..it's really an exquisite Gaiwan . High-end antique porcenlains only stay in Europe :D


looks like 70s type QSN material though. why do you think they are from the 90s? not to dispute your opinion but for discussion.
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Re: Antique/Vintage Tea and Tea Ware

Postby chrl42 » Aug 18th, '14, 02:06

kyarazen wrote:
chrl42 wrote:
Fabien wrote:
wert wrote:
Fabien wrote:End of the day with a nice Da hong pao, in an old gaiwan. Relaxing! Imari? Kuntani?
I am more interested in the couple of shuiping in the background, looks like good stuff. More photos? :D
About thoses Shui ping I've already posted some photos here : http://www.teachat.com/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=11539&p=246423#p246423 and there : http://www.teachat.com/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=11539&p=246427#p246427

Looks like those 90s series....but compared to now...now is even harder to follow that 90's quality..

btw..it's really an exquisite Gaiwan . High-end antique porcenlains only stay in Europe :D


looks like 70s type QSN material though. why do you think they are from the 90s? not to dispute your opinion but for discussion.

I am merely commenting on Qing Yin SP and Zhunis.

Qing Yin zini SP only has 22~23 letter (seal), meaning the fabien's one to be imitation, the other SP I can't see for clear.
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Re: Antique/Vintage Tea and Tea Ware

Postby Fabien » Aug 18th, '14, 03:30

chrl42 wrote: btw..it's really an exquisite Gaiwan . High-end antique porcenlains only stay in Europe :D
Thanks chrl, but it's really not so easy to find that kind of tea related porcelain around here... even more difficult if you want to use it and seek for items with no damage or restoration!
The advantage is that a lot of people don't even know what they are selling :D
Thanks also for sharing your knowledge on the SP, they definitely work perfectly and make good tea... what else!?
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Re: Antique/Vintage Tea and Tea Ware

Postby kyarazen » Aug 18th, '14, 04:26

chrl42 wrote:I am merely commenting on Qing Yin SP and Zhunis.

Qing Yin zini SP only has 22~23 letter (seal), meaning the fabien's one to be imitation, the other SP I can't see for clear.


wasnt directed to the zhuni's by the links

just on the clay alone the first SP looks like 70s QSN, imitation or not the Qing Yin looks more 80'ish, both decent clays and shapes though.
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Re: Antique/Vintage Tea and Tea Ware

Postby kyleshen » Oct 4th, '14, 21:20

Fabien wrote:
William wrote:
wert wrote:
Fabien wrote: End of the day with a nice Da hong pao, in an old gaiwan. Relaxing!
Imari? Kuntani? I am more interested in the couple of shuiping in the background, looks like good stuff. More photos? :D
If you refer to the gaiwan, it is not japanese stuff.

As William already stated it's chinese and not japanese, probably from mid to late Qing period and for sure after Qianlong reign (4-character Qianlong red stamped mark is usually indicating a later period).
As far as I know, this coral red porcelain, with a chrysanthemum scalloped shape and a wide hollow saucer would point it out to circa 1900, Guangxu period.

But that's just an educated guess, I'm no expert at all. If anyone has more infos or guesses, feel free to chime in, I'm always interested to know what I'm drinking in :D


Yes, I vote for late qing to early republic era, too. The glaze and the painting indicate such period.
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