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by Moss » Jun 18th, '09, 17:30

Pleasure. Need to know these things.

I used to teach Photoshop and web development. My first class I would ask everyone what level they were. There were beginners and experts only. The beginners had just started and saw what a huge task it was. The "experts" had been doing it a while and got a few successes under their belts but they had been working more or less in isolation so their successes made them feel that they were, indeed, experts. I would hit them up first thing with something hard, expert stuff, then at the end of the class I would ask again. Invariably there were now beginners (more of them...) and some intermediate folks.

I feel a little like that. I have some successes and it is easy to say that I know something, but really, I have started a journey on an endless path and I am probably one or two bricks in.

Getting info from all of you, even contradictory info, is VERY important to me. Thanks for the conversation on this topic.
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by Geekgirl » Jun 18th, '09, 20:08

revising my answer after measuring the volume on my 6 favorite cups to 3-4 oz. :lol: I'm drinking LESS tea than I thought. :shock: Better get busy.

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by iannon » Jun 18th, '09, 20:36

my everyday cup holds about 8 or 9oz...its my favorite size.. i use it mostly for senchas and dragonwells. its the perfect size for me anyway. since i usually brew around 5 to 8 ounces depending on the tea so that size hold that range easily. i use a 5 to 6oz cup for my gyo's which i brew in about 4 oz sessions

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by Chip » Jun 18th, '09, 21:17

Also shapes ... a flared cup in 3-4 ounces is my top pick, but not always easy to find. This generally requires 2 fills per pot of tea, but I pour into a glass pitcher from a kyusu.

It is interesting that this size and shape is quite common however in Japanese porcelain, but Hagi ... much harder to find. It is not unusual for me to reach for a guinomi, but that falls below 3 ounces ...
blah blah blah SENCHA blah blah blah!!!

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taiwanese tea ceremony

by bonjiri » Jun 18th, '09, 21:48

my teapot teacher, ah leon gave short demonstrations of chinese tea ceremony. a yixing looking teapot and two cups were used, a small narrow one for sniffing and the second, which you drank was the standard, smaller chinese cup (looks like a guinomi). all of the implements of tea were placed on a wooden board with a cool drain system.

i 'm not at all familiar with the above process, maybe some one can share about this process

i find my guinomi are about a size very close to a small teacup. hehe ! about 2.5 inches tall x 2.5 inches wide.

thanks !

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Re: taiwanese tea ceremony

by Ebtoulson » Jun 18th, '09, 22:15

bonjiri wrote:i 'm not at all familiar with the above process, maybe some one can share about this process!
I believe you talking about something like this. He's doing a gong fu style brewing over a tea table/serving tray (which catches the extra tea and water that run off). There are 2 types of cups tasting and aroma.

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by coloradopu » Jun 19th, '09, 15:28

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by coloradopu » Jun 19th, '09, 15:43

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by Chip » Jun 19th, '09, 19:53

cpu, I like what you are trying to do with shapes and sizes!!! A lot. Keep it up, I say. And since you asked and other potters have also jumped in ...

As I mentioned above, I lean towards 3-4 ounce flared/tapers. Some cups in house that fit that description...also generally light color interior.

Hagi, around 4 ounces.
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Interesting shape, semi lily shaped Hagi
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Japanese porcelain with interesting constriction
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Deishi flared Hagi cup, a little larger albeit, but very nice.
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by Chip » Jun 19th, '09, 20:14

Guinomi (sake cups) make excellent small teacups, but tend to be smaller yet, <3 ounces. Tend to be lower and wider. Often 2.5-3 inches wide and <2.5 inches tall. Also tend to be cylindrical.

I thnk many of them look just like tiny Chawan, check it out.

Deishi Hagi in loquat
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Another Deishi
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Yamane Seigen doing his thing.
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OK, I guess I have made my point (and man, they reallllly do look like Chawan!!!).
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by clareandromeda » Jun 19th, '09, 20:24

I looove the glaze on the last one!

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by bonjiri » Jun 19th, '09, 20:31

Chip wrote:Guinomi (sake cups) make excellent small teacups, but tend to be smaller yet, <3 ounces. Tend to be lower and wider. Often 2.5-3 inches wide and <2.5 inches tall. Also tend to be cylindrical.

I thnk many of them look just like tiny Chawan, check it out.

Deishi Hagi in loquat
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Another Deishi
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Yamane Seigen doing his thing.
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And again ...
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OK, I guess I have made my point (and man, they reallllly do look like Chawan!!!).
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love the yamane seigen blue piece too ! WOW ! beautiful !

stunning !

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by Chip » Jun 19th, '09, 20:37

Heh, me too ... ooops, sorry to cause a distraction. When a Hagi shows up, it is like a super star has just walked into the room. 8)

Focusing on my point, smaller size and alternative shapes and proportions can be beautiful and very functional for tea!!! :idea:

It all comes down to personal taste though.

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by Tead Off » Jun 20th, '09, 00:55

Chip, like you, I prefer the size and shapes you illustrate. One gets the feeling that the tea is still the center of attention rather than the toys. I find I get bored by gimmick. The simplicity of the Deishi really moves me. I find him to have a great feeling for this type of teaware. His pieces draw me in. I'm sure I will buy something from him.

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by coloradopu » Jun 22nd, '09, 09:32

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