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theredbaron wrote:

William wrote:

I thank you for this long discourse, your insights make me think, showing to me some points of view about China and Asian world, that for an EU citizen like me, are not easily perceived in everyday life.

And just to stay on topic, I just started a session with the sheng Pu-Erh (2003 - "Youle Mountain Round Tea").

I had a Buddhist teacher once who ate meat. When a student challenged him on that he said, "We're all in it up to here (eyebrows). Where will you go?"

Anyone who thinks that the US has some corner on food purity (or any sort of sane attitude about food) needs to watch Food Inc. I think everyone just has to find their own comfort zone in a very impure world and be mindful that on one end is your shining, organic, locally produced and expensive 1st world carrot and on the other a zillion hungry kids who would kill for your Hungry Man frozen dinner. It's all pretty crazy, everywhere. In the larger picture tea dirt seems like esoterica to me, though I deeply support every effort towards healthier production.

I was assembling granola way back in 1968 (olllld) and have watched the evolution of the 'pure food' thing closely all of my life. I don't expect my tea (or the bulk of my food) to be reliably organic/ethically produced, it's a crap shoot, and you guys are correct that it's a drop in the bucket of increasingly compromised stuff that we all consume, breathe and swim in. I don't figure that pu is toxic, I didn't mean that. It's the purely subjective ick factor and the happily morbid boyish brags about the gross things that have been found in it.
Doesn't help that the only pu I've tasted was truly, how can I say... vehement-new-cow-flop-with-moldy-hay flavored. I enjoy all sorts of funky (by western standards) food, love stinky moldy cheese, but that one sort of did me in. I know, it was a poor pu. Later, maybe.
So anyway, I usually rinse teas that stand up to it well, if I remember to - partly because it 'opens up' a lot of them. But it's a psychological thing, mostly, don't you think?
Yikes, too long a post. I surely have too much time on my hands.

kikula wrote: Doesn't help that the only pu I've tasted was truly, how can I say... vehement-new-cow-flop-with-moldy-hay flavored. I enjoy all sorts of funky (by western standards) food, love stinky moldy cheese, but that one sort of did me in. I know, it was a poor pu. Later, maybe.

If I'm thinking of the taste you're describing, I think you're just making it too strong, which I find to be all too easy for the first 3 infusions or so. I finally had the time today to use the same pu-erh leaves for 8 hours. It's very mild and slightly sweet now…around 4 litres later — I'm not even decanting it.

It was years ago and I didn't brew it, an acquaintance did - you're probably right, though. It's a lingering memory in any case. I know all the REAL tea lovers love pu, but that's inexorably hooked in my mind with "you can be in the club if you eat this worm".
I'm working on it. Like a trauma.

kikula wrote:I know all the REAL tea lovers love pu,

I disagree. Surely the best are those who know what teas they like and don't like and have a justification for it?

Surely. On the other hand, there are prejudices based upon error. We'll see.

I like your writing style kikula! Not all pu erh tastes like moldy socks, and as I stated I've only ever seen green string in my pu.

Well, a green string could be a treasure. I could hold it up to my darling little granddaughter and say, "Look! This came all the way from China! And if you'll wash up those dishes you may have it." Will invest in some soon, yes.

Personally, I am more concerned with what kind of droppings would appear in sun-dried tea more than anything else.

M.

Hey, found my first foreign object in my tea! While refilling my pot today in the office for another infusion of shucha, I discovered what appears to have been a peanut shell. It was largely intact, with one of the two chambers having what looks like the outer leavings of the bean itself.

M.

Well I just found my Green String in the Cake. Okay, more like a green strip of plastic (the kind of plastic used to make bags).

What is the point to wash Pu-erh if it was made into unit dose form, not the loose leaves? It is not going to wash what shouldn't be there.

Part of it is to remove some of the debris from the microbes, I'm told. It also opens the mass for better infusion.

M.