Re: O-cha's expanded organic sencha range
Posted: Jan 30th, '13, 03:30
Which sencha is that? - I can't find it on O-cha's site...Peacock wrote:The Kagoshima "gold" was the best organic sencha I've ever had.
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Which sencha is that? - I can't find it on O-cha's site...Peacock wrote:The Kagoshima "gold" was the best organic sencha I've ever had.
I think it was only available late 2011/early 2012.Chesslover wrote:Which sencha is that? - I can't find it on O-cha's site...Peacock wrote: The Kagoshima "gold" was the best organic sencha I've ever had.
blairswhitaker wrote:I'm rather excited to see the expanded line up of organics from O-cha. I am in the rare minority of people who strongly prefer organic tea over conventional. I wish their was more asamushi selection though. Kevin's tastes clearly lean toward a certain profile, deeper steamed being a part of it. I am also not a fan of the seminal classic of his, okumidori fukamushi. I have tried it several times and just like other teas so much better. It's not just his tea either. I am just not a fan of deep steamed okumidori in general. but I do see a few new organic offerings that certainly merit a try.
Alex wrote:blairswhitaker wrote:I'm rather excited to see the expanded line up of organics from O-cha. I am in the rare minority of people who strongly prefer organic tea over conventional. I wish their was more asamushi selection though. Kevin's tastes clearly lean toward a certain profile, deeper steamed being a part of it. I am also not a fan of the seminal classic of his, okumidori fukamushi. I have tried it several times and just like other teas so much better. It's not just his tea either. I am just not a fan of deep steamed okumidori in general. but I do see a few new organic offerings that certainly merit a try.
I'm the same RE organics. We seem to have similar taste as all your yuuki-cha favourites seem to be mine too so I'll be interested to see what you enjoy from o-cha.
I had a couple of organics from them last year.....I can't remember what they were as I'm terrible with names but I wasn't a fan. Be up for trying some more though I may have just made a poor selection.
Just to clarify, our Oku Midori is medium steamed and we've only been carrying that for a few months, I don't think you've tried that. It was very hard to obtain, I had to jump through a lot of hoops to get it but I was impressed with it enough to do so. Currently the only deep steamed organic which we carry is 7132.blairswhitaker wrote:I am also not a fan of the seminal classic of his, okumidori fukamushi. I have tried it several times and just like other teas so much better. It's not just his tea either. I am just not a fan of deep steamed okumidori in general.
My apologies, I was actually referring to the yutakamidori.Kevangogh wrote:Just to clarify, our Oku Midori is medium steamed and we've only been carrying that for a few months, I don't think you've tried that. It was very hard to obtain, I had to jump through a lot of hoops to get it but I was impressed with it enough to do so. Currently the only deep steamed organic which we carry is 7132.blairswhitaker wrote:I am also not a fan of the seminal classic of his, okumidori fukamushi. I have tried it several times and just like other teas so much better. It's not just his tea either. I am just not a fan of deep steamed okumidori in general.
We used to carry a lot more light steamed organics but they came from the Warashina area of Shizuoka and that area, unfortunately, had some of the highest radiation readings so we quit selling them.
OK, so wherever you said Oku Midori, you meant the non organic Yutaka Midori? I previously stated in this topic that this selection of Oku Midori was possibly the best organic I have tried. But then again, Yutaka Midori is a personal fave of mine and many others ...blairswhitaker wrote:My apologies, I was actually referring to the yutakamidori.Kevangogh wrote:Just to clarify, our Oku Midori is medium steamed and we've only been carrying that for a few months, I don't think you've tried that. It was very hard to obtain, I had to jump through a lot of hoops to get it but I was impressed with it enough to do so. Currently the only deep steamed organic which we carry is 7132.blairswhitaker wrote:I am also not a fan of the seminal classic of his, okumidori fukamushi. I have tried it several times and just like other teas so much better. It's not just his tea either. I am just not a fan of deep steamed okumidori in general.
We used to carry a lot more light steamed organics but they came from the Warashina area of Shizuoka and that area, unfortunately, had some of the highest radiation readings so we quit selling them.
Yes, once again I apologize to the confusion my error created, in that paragraph I had unintentionally used okumidori ( a varietal I really enjoy very much) in place of yutakamidori, ( a varietal I find less appealing, though not bad in any way).Chip wrote:OK, so wherever you said Oku Midori, you meant the non organic Yutaka Midori? I previously stated in this topic that this selection of Oku Midori was possibly the best organic I have tried. But then again, Yutaka Midori is a personal fave of mine and many others ...blairswhitaker wrote:My apologies, I was actually referring to the yutakamidori.Kevangogh wrote:Just to clarify, our Oku Midori is medium steamed and we've only been carrying that for a few months, I don't think you've tried that. It was very hard to obtain, I had to jump through a lot of hoops to get it but I was impressed with it enough to do so. Currently the only deep steamed organic which we carry is 7132.blairswhitaker wrote:I am also not a fan of the seminal classic of his, okumidori fukamushi. I have tried it several times and just like other teas so much better. It's not just his tea either. I am just not a fan of deep steamed okumidori in general.
We used to carry a lot more light steamed organics but they came from the Warashina area of Shizuoka and that area, unfortunately, had some of the highest radiation readings so we quit selling them.
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Forgive my ignorance, I have been endeavoring to comprehend your intended meaning of, "I am also not a fan of the seminal classic of his, okumidori fukamushi."
The use of seminal is confusing to me since it carries differing meanings.
According to World English Dictionary:
seminal (ˈsɛmɪnəl)
— adj
1. potentially capable of development
2. highly original, influential, and important
3. rudimentary or unformed
4. of or relating to semen: seminal fluid
5. biology of or relating to seed
My perspective is clearly different than yours which is tied to your roots, emotions. As result I draw different conclusions.I know chip has stated
many times that he believes organic tea and conventional tea do not bear comparison as far as to even state "I try not to judge them against conventionally grown Japanese greens ... they are a different animal pretty much altogether IMHO."
I STRONGLY disagree. from an agricultural background, (I was raised on a farm that practiced no application of chemical/synthetic fertilizer or pesticides. we did not call it "organic" or "non conventionally grown" we simply called it farming and it was the way generations of my family had been farming, but I digress.) If I have a honey crisp apple that was organically grown and a honey crisp apple that was conventionally grown their is a great deal to compare and contrast. Especially if they were grown in the same region under the same weather patterns. to me they are the same "animal" just raised on a different diet. the same goes for sencha as far as I am concerned.
not sure I follow this question?Chip wrote:
BTW, are all your pu-erh organic?
blairswhitaker wrote:not sure I follow this question?Chip wrote:
BTW, are all your pu-erh organic?
Pretty self-explanatory. You are obviously a proponent of organics. It is great that you enjoy organic sencha and endorse them, but what about the other tea you drink? Gyokuro, Pu-erh, etc.? It seems you have some wiggle room ... (or perhaps there are not good organic examples)I am in the rare minority of people who strongly prefer organic tea over conventional.
Yes I strongly prefer my tea to be organic. I do drink many teas that are not organic. when it comes to puerh my favorites are those that would not be designated organic because they don't need to be, such as they are grown in an area where pesticides and chemical fertilizers are not employed. I have never claimed that I WILL NOT drink a non organic tea product. though I usually source my teas from people who can tell me about who grew them and under what circumstances. I recently enjoyed a number of menghai offerings that were not organic. I do however tend to source most of my teas from shops that specialize in organic offerings. Yuuki-Cha, Mad Monk, seven cups and so on.Chip wrote:blairswhitaker wrote:not sure I follow this question?Chip wrote:
BTW, are all your pu-erh organic?Pretty self-explanatory. You are obviously a proponent of organics. It is great that you enjoy organic sencha and endorse them, but what about the other tea you drink? Gyokuro, Pu-erh, etc.? It seems you have some wiggle room ... (or perhaps there are not good organic examples)I am in the rare minority of people who strongly prefer organic tea over conventional.
Since you are perhaps most vocal on the subject of Organic Sencha, I feel this is a fair question to ask as it gives us a broader perspective of where you are coming from.