OTTI Round #5 Pu-OTTI, Young Raw Pu-erh


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Re: NEW!!! OTTI Round #5 Pu-OTTI, Young Raw Pu-erh

Postby Marco » Sep 21st, '10, 15:10

On the weekend I tasted some 2010 Mansai Village.
The first two infusions tasted quite good and then it felt somehow week. And I missed this nice smell in the cup that I liked so much with the Nannuo.
But I have to admit that I didn't pay full attention to my tasting. So perhaps I simply have not been in the right mood for it.

Now I have some 2010 Manmai Village. Easy to mix up this two names :)
Nice first infusions. And the second one gave me a feeling in my belly I can't describe. Felt somehow strange but not unpleasant.
The smell of my cup is nice but only decent. But I still love it.
Had the fourth infusion now and it is pleasant. Will give me some more.

I will try the Mansai again on a better day. Now I'd put the Manmai far over the Mansai.

What do the Pu-specialists here say when will this two Pu-Erhs get to its peak or at least to a very good aged state?

I am very curious :)
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Re: 2006 YiWu Mt. (Mandarins)

Postby TwoPynts » Sep 21st, '10, 16:44

TwoPynts wrote:2006 YiWu Mt. (Mandarins)

Dry leaves have very faint scent - hints at tobacco. They don't look like they have aged 4 years, very much like the 2010 EoT offerings.

Rinsing and the initial infusion smell strongly of a campfire made using fresh logs.

1st infusion - No flavors other than wood smoke are detectable. Coppery aftertaste lingers. Light amber broth.

2nd - Campfire scent still strong but a ripe fruit impression is behind it. Still not detecting other flavors, certainly not everything listed on Mandarin's Tea Room site. Finish is cool, and the Qi is starting to come on. Feeling slightly loopy, hah.

3rd - Scent has a bit more spice and fruit. Still no other outstanding flavors. Nice catch at the back of the throat. Some drying sensation.

4th - Toffee scent coming through now. I'm still not having much luck picking up other flavors.

Have to stop here for now, I'll come back to this later.


Back to this tea today after letting the leaves sit overnight. The damp leaves had a very noticeable tobacco aroma. I gave it a quick rinse.

5th - Still has a campfire scent, but it is softening into something more fruity and floral. No remarkable tasting notes, just pleasant pu.

6th - Getting more mild. A bit of hay flavor. Slight sweetness.

7th - Went for much longer infusion. Pleasant enough flavored water with a bit of a tang, but not much else going on now. I think I'm done with this one.

I'm not over impressed with the YiWu, but another session with this tea could turn out quite differently so who knows.
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Re: NEW!!! OTTI Round #5 Pu-OTTI, Young Raw Pu-erh

Postby puerhking » Sep 21st, '10, 19:43

Chip wrote: but never urine in my pu!


You have taken my innocent comments and turned them into something filthy! :lol:
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Re: NEW!!! OTTI Round #5 Pu-OTTI, Young Raw Pu-erh

Postby Chip » Sep 22nd, '10, 01:39

puerhking wrote:
Chip wrote: but never urine in my pu!


You have taken my innocent comments and turned them into something filthy! :lol:

The pun was too easy! :mrgreen:

Thank you everyone for awesome participation in this OTTI discussion!
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Re: NEW!!! OTTI Round #5 Pu-OTTI, Young Raw Pu-erh

Postby debunix » Sep 22nd, '10, 03:07

So frustrated that travel and work schedules have kept me from my next tasting, but today enjoyed a different young sheng that was on hand at work because I was so craving that young sheng sweetness & strength. Sigh. Going to bring the package to work tomorrow, need to get back to it!
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Re: NEW!!! OTTI Round #5 Pu-OTTI, Young Raw Pu-erh

Postby Mr. Usaji » Sep 22nd, '10, 18:59

2010 EoT Mansai

My second ever attempt at "tasting notes"!

90ml gaiwan, half the sample (too little?), boiling water, rinse (drank it!)

5 seconds. A little sweet, a little "tobacco" flavor (if that's really the right word), no bitterness yet. Very pale yellow; I probably under-brewed.

15. A slight bitterness appears, and the color is a bit darker; I think I timed this one right. The leaves in the gaiwan smell delicious: like "tobacco", but also maybe "food-like"--I don't know which food, but a good one.

25. Stronger yellow color, notable bitterness, lasting into the aftertaste. (I still don't get how the aftertaste is supposed to be sweet; this was bitter.) Nice.

35, 60, 90. Declining in strength, and not all that interesting. Too bad the good flavors didn't last very long; maybe these infusions were too short, or I should have used more leaves.

Loooooong time. A little remaining bitterness and a hint of "foody tobacco", slurping directly from the gaiwan.

Unlike the Manmai, this had a bit of the strength that (from my limited experience) I expect to find in pu'er--jut a bit, not a lot. Strangely, it had very little of the "numbing" mouthfeel. I liked this more overall: it was not amazing, but good.

So far, I haven't been wowed by any pu'er. If this is supposed to be a great one, I wonder if I just don't love pu'er overall. Anyway, 3 more samples to go.
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Re: NEW!!! OTTI Round #5 Pu-OTTI, Young Raw Pu-erh

Postby AdamMY » Sep 22nd, '10, 20:49

Essence of Tea Manmai

This tea seems to exemplify certain defining characteristics of a young puerh. Strong taste, with tropical flavors lurking just below a nice bitterness. A long finish hinting on a subtle sweetness.

While it does all of that wonderfully, I feel like what makes a puerh have a wow factor beyond just good, depends on what it does outside those characteristics.

While this is certainly a step above Standard Dayi and the like, this tea is not wowing me, at least not today.
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Re: NEW!!! OTTI Round #5 Pu-OTTI, Young Raw Pu-erh

Postby debunix » Sep 24th, '10, 23:55

Only my third of these teas, the sad slow shame of it....tonight drinking some EoT Mansai, 2g in a 2 oz gaiwan, water about 205 degrees, flash rinse then 10 second infusions, gradually increasing infusion times, now up to 8th or 9th infusion and 20-30 seconds: the leaves are very promising, strong sweet scent of young pu, and the liquor is sweet, rich with anise/licorice, herby and lovely, and any oops! too bitter! infusions are quickly tamed with a bit of dilution with more hot water from the pot. Very nice tea, like it a lot!

Gave up the infusions because I ran out of water in the pot, had filled it with about 1.25 L, and at 60mL per infusion, that was about 20 infusions. The leaves still had sweetness and strength to give.
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Re: NEW!!! OTTI Round #5 Pu-OTTI, Young Raw Pu-erh

Postby the_skua » Sep 26th, '10, 11:53

My thoughts on the Manmai. How light it was.

Of all aspects of this tea, the most stunning was the initial wet-leaf aroma. Goodness. A rich, intoxicating push of licorice root and star anise, following by a bundle of tropical fruit: persimmion, jack-fruit, rambutan, and banana. Absolutely illustrious. A lot of aroma came out of a small amount of dark, large, well-dressed leaves that were dark and had an excellent sheen.

Hot steeps and long ones produced surprisingly light tea. I kept my chubby yixing only partially filled in an attempt to concentrate the flavors, but for the first few steeps of treating this tea like other young sheng pu’er, I felt as though I could taste the minerals of the water and the clay more than anything from the tea. An ephemeral and ethereal gauze of apricot, straw, and honeydew made brief appearances. Otherwise, the water extracted light green bitterness, a not so subtle reminder that pu’er, in its early days, is really a form of green tea. Maybe I should have treated this sample as such.

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Re: NEW!!! OTTI Round #5 Pu-OTTI, Young Raw Pu-erh

Postby puerhking » Sep 26th, '10, 19:17

MTR - 06 Yiwu 5g leaf in 120ml water - Leaves smell like leather and tobacco with some fermentation aromas. The tea tastes of them as well with wood and a touch of camphor. A bit of sweetness on the front of the tongue and some balancing sour on the back. Chaqi is present but mild. The fermentation taste from higher humidity works well with this one...nicely balancing with the other flavors.

The slightly maturing flavors really come together on the Yiwu. This is pretty fantastic.

After working on this for the second day...I have to say that it is my favorite of the five. Yum.
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Re: NEW!!! OTTI Round #5 Pu-OTTI, Young Raw Pu-erh

Postby debunix » Sep 27th, '10, 01:18

EOT manmai: dry leaves smell fantastic, fruity and sweet
2 grams in small gaiwan, about 75mL tea
water just off the boil
10" rinse
1st infusion 5": sweet, fruity, delicate, plums and anise and flowers, reminds me very much of the Yunnan Mao Feng green tea I've been enjoying so much.
2nd infusion (meant to be 10", but turned away, was at least 20"): similar, stronger, not bitter
3rd infusion 20": nice, very very similar
4th infusion 30": fruity, gorgeous, sweet, floral

And so on for 8 or 9 infusions. The leaf has lost the fruity and floral, and now is just mildly sweet, a little anise still there too. A nice finish.

Having never watched a puerh age, I have no idea how this one will do. But it's delicious now.

Only one left to go for the first time through.....and then it will be time for some head to head in the little tiny gaiwans.
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Re: NEW!!! OTTI Round #5 Pu-OTTI, Young Raw Pu-erh

Postby rabbit » Sep 27th, '10, 08:00

As much as I've wanted to participate in OTTI I must restrain myself because I already have too much tea, I need not be greedy.
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Re: NEW!!! OTTI Round #5 Pu-OTTI, Young Raw Pu-erh

Postby the_skua » Sep 28th, '10, 10:16

My thoughts on the EoT Mansai:

These leaves edged smaller, with more variety in color, but the same healthy sheen. Unlike the Manmai, the aroma wasn’t a bellowing tropical fruit, but instead a mellow, more typical dry sheng smell. Rinsing the leaves, classic woodsy characters emerged: damp moss, birch bark, and distant cedar shavings. The color of the soup was an opaline scallop-color, speckled with bud fur.

Despite the pale moon-colored soup, this tea had a great thick, gloopy texture early on. I found the overal flavor profile fleeting: light-colored uncooked mushrooms, maple wood, and cotton candy. In the gaiwan, the leaves looked larger, darker green, and more mature than the last two Essence of Tea samples, giving me pause that older leaves may have less immediate potency to them.

The middle and later steeps got a touch soapy and thinly astringent for me. And, despite what I consider to be another light tea, this had less quick bitterness, and a better texture and structure than both the Manmai and the Bangwai, hinting at a potentially bright future for this tea.

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Re: NEW!!! OTTI Round #5 Pu-OTTI, Young Raw Pu-erh

Postby entropyembrace » Sep 28th, '10, 16:23

Giving the Nannuo another go today since I´m not going anywhere I have lots of time sitting next to my kettle so I should be able to get through a fair number of infusions....getting lots of smokey, woody, autumn forest type flavours. It seems a bit sweet too.
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MTR 2005 NANNUO Mt.

Postby TwoPynts » Sep 28th, '10, 17:24

MTR 2005 NANNUO Mt.

This is my last pu from the OTTI, exciting!
Dry leaves smell slightly of cocoa.
Wet leaves after rinse smell like baked bread. Damp baked bread.

1st infusion - Straw colored broth with a hard to place but pleasant scent. Very lively in the mouth and on the tongue with lip smacking effects. This is definitely a tea that you feel in the back of your throat. Not smokey or overly earthy but crisp with notes of cedar and pine and a hint of sweetness.

2nd - Smell reminds me of a misty or freshly rained upon flower garden where there are no open flowers. The soup has even more presence, but I'm not able to distinguish discernible flavors. A bit of bubble gum on the tip of my tongue after swallowing. Ah yes, the sweet aftertaste is here.

3rd - Darker broth with a suggestion of mellon. Some good astrigency verging on bitterness. Wonderful mouthfeel and pleasant woody character. Some spice notes detectable in the aftertaste. A bit of cooling this time but no camphor.

4th - Again I get cedar chip smell from the broth and leaves. I'm not sure what flavors I am getting, they are very mild. The sweet aftertaste is more dominating. Very invigorating yet passive qi.

5th - Sweet yet mild. This the last one I am going to do, but I think longer steeps would draw out more.

This was my favorite Mandarin selection. I am not sure if it was my favorite pu in the OTTI though. I think that was the Mansai. This was great fun and I am thankful to have been a part of this. Now to let my leftover leaves age a bit more...
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