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Kuding tea

Postby Marco » Nov 14th, '10, 12:09

Just keep on trying everything and stumbled upon Kuding tea.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuding_tea

It is called "bitter nail" too.
Tried it yesterday. It smells like - yes for me it just stinks. And it tasted awful. Seems to be very healthy. But is not meant for me I think.
Who did try it before? :)

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Re: Kuding tea

Postby bearsbearsbears » Nov 14th, '10, 13:15

I drink kuding regularly. Use only 1 or 2 leaves in a mug; otherwise, the bitterness is overpowering.

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Re: Kuding tea

Postby Proinsias » Nov 14th, '10, 13:19

I've had, and really enjoyed, the very small leaf kuding, not so keen on the larger, twisted leaves I've tried.

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Re: Kuding tea

Postby rabbit » Nov 14th, '10, 13:19

bearsbearsbears wrote:I drink kuding regularly. Use only 1 or 2 leaves in a mug; otherwise, the bitterness is overpowering.


What does it taste like?

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Re: Kuding tea

Postby Marco » Nov 14th, '10, 15:08

bearsbearsbears wrote:I drink kuding regularly. Use only 1 or 2 leaves in a mug; otherwise, the bitterness is overpowering.

So how much water on one nail?
And what do you say to the smell? I opened the bag and thought <yuck>. Hoped it would taste better.

Proinsias wrote:I've had, and really enjoyed, the very small leaf kuding, not so keen on the larger, twisted leaves I've tried.

I do not know why it is both called Kuding. What I have read those two variants are from different plants.

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Re: Kuding tea

Postby SlientSipper » Nov 26th, '10, 18:26

rabbit wrote:
bearsbearsbears wrote:I drink kuding regularly. Use only 1 or 2 leaves in a mug; otherwise, the bitterness is overpowering.


What does it taste like?




It reminds me of chalk. A very chalky taste. Like its alkaline based or something. It curbs asthma and bronchitis for me.

I also think that this should be considered a green tea.

If I remember correctly it is one of the oldest teas in China.

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Re: Kuding tea

Postby SlientSipper » Nov 26th, '10, 18:36

rabbit wrote:
bearsbearsbears wrote:I drink kuding regularly. Use only 1 or 2 leaves in a mug; otherwise, the bitterness is overpowering.


What does it taste like?




It reminds me of chalk. A very chalky taste. Like its alkaline based or something. It curbs asthma and bronchitis for me.

I also think that this should be considered a green tea.

If I remember correctly it is one of the oldest teas in China.

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Re: Kuding tea

Postby bearsbearsbears » Nov 27th, '10, 00:22

Marco wrote:So how much water on one nail?
And what do you say to the smell? I opened the bag and thought <yuck>. Hoped it would taste better.


I don't think it has too much smell. For one nail i'd use about 8-12oz water. (~250-350ml). I became accustomed to the bitterness of one nail, and I now use two. :)

As for what it tastes like, it's alkaline/metallic and bitter, with a sweet aftertaste (hui gan).

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Re: Kuding tea

Postby eugene_b » Dec 28th, '10, 12:51

Where do you guys buy Kuding? I've been looking at this mysterious thing at TeaSpring and was tempted to try it but was stopped by some comments saying that their Kuding was bad.

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Re: Kuding tea

Postby bearsbearsbears » Dec 29th, '10, 12:48

eugene_b wrote:Where do you guys buy Kuding? I've been looking at this mysterious thing at TeaSpring and was tempted to try it but was stopped by some comments saying that their Kuding was bad.


TeaCuppa and Yunnan Sourcing also sell it. I get mine locally at a Chinatown shop; their online store is called Asia Chi. http://asiachi.com/spkudichatea.html is the link to their kuding, but in the store they offer several grades, and I buy the highest grade. Also, I don't know if they ship to Ukraine.

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Re: Kuding tea

Postby SlientSipper » Jan 14th, '11, 22:10

I notice a considerable difference with this tea.
Its best to boil water first and the pour the water into a cup.
Then drop the Kuding Nail in it.

I also notice that it helps clear up bronchitis a bit and helps with asthma slightly.

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Re: Kuding tea

Postby SlientSipper » Jan 14th, '11, 22:10

I notice a considerable difference with this tea.
Its best to boil water first and the pour the water into a cup.
Then drop the Kuding Nail in it.

I also notice that it helps clear up bronchitis a bit and helps with asthma slightly.

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Re: Kuding tea

Postby kaminix » Jan 15th, '11, 05:47

Anyone know by what mechanism this tea works? I'm very skeptic to health effects of any tea considering it's 99.something percent water. :p

Also any peer-reviewed reports supporting the positive health effects of this tea would be appreciated. :-) Wikipedia doesn't seem to cite any but the usual (likely biased IMO) folk medicine universities. :p

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Re: Kuding tea

Postby Marco » Jan 15th, '11, 08:18

Keep in mind that we all consist about 2/3 of water. :)

And the herbal medicine has a tradition of thousands of years - not only in Asia but all over the world and in every culture.
And homeopathy works with concentrations far below 1%.

The saponins seem to have very positive health effects - but I do not know much more.

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Re: Kuding tea

Postby auhckw » Jan 15th, '11, 08:24

I had this once and I will not have it second time...

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