No Problem Sir Chip its hard to find something so excitingChip wrote:Sorry, I was reacting to Cory's post where he mentioned a possible price of around 4-5 thousand (?). I don't know if it is for sale.TIM wrote:Chip- i did not know its for sale!!! Where Please?Chip wrote:And sadly, wayyyy out of my price range.TIM wrote:Now we are talking. Simple, Natural, and with Great SpiritsRobert Fornell wrote:
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Hi Tim,TIM wrote:No Problem Sir Chip its hard to find something so excitingChip wrote:Sorry, I was reacting to Cory's post where he mentioned a possible price of around 4-5 thousand (?). I don't know if it is for sale.TIM wrote:Chip- i did not know its for sale!!! Where Please?Chip wrote:And sadly, wayyyy out of my price range.TIM wrote:Now we are talking. Simple, Natural, and with Great SpiritsRobert Fornell wrote:
Tsujimura-sans chawan generally run in the 3K to 5K range. I saw a similar piece at Lacoste Gallery in Concorde MA and I believe that either Dai-Ichi Arts or Joan Mirvis in NY may carry him. Chawan in this price range, while eye popping for many here, are not all that uncommon in Japan. Suzuki Goro's work is around 10K to 15K.....
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Thank You for the info R
Good thing should not be cheap, the price is a respect to the artist IMO.
I've been in love with This artist for over 12 years now:
http://tiny.cc/rti32
To me, it worth every penny. ~ T
Good thing should not be cheap, the price is a respect to the artist IMO.
I've been in love with This artist for over 12 years now:
http://tiny.cc/rti32
To me, it worth every penny. ~ T
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404'd! Got a working link?TIM wrote:http://tiny.cc/rti32
So Chip, when are we going to get a $5k chawan SO?
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そです。So desu. True.Robert Fornell wrote: ........while eye popping for many here, are not all that uncommon in Japan.
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Drax wrote:404'd! Got a working link?TIM wrote:http://tiny.cc/rti32
So Chip, when are we going to get a $5k chawan SO?
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There is often work by Tsujimura and other well known ceramicists up for auction at the Mainichi auction. The prices are very reasonable and often times they go unsold. You can access Mainichi here, http://www.my-auction.co.jp/en/index.html
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As soon as we all get together and group buy Mega Millions/Powerball ... and win realllly big.Drax wrote:So Chip, when are we going to get a $5k chawan SO?
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So how about a $5k Picasso? Just cultural differences/values perhaps as in the west the perception of ceramics is quite different than that in many parts of the east...... not passing judgement here on whether Tsujimura's chawan are worth $X Y or Z, however I think that it should be recognized, Powerball aside, SO's aside, that different cultures place different values on their respective "art" works.Chip wrote:As soon as we all get together and group buy Mega Millions/Powerball ... and win realllly big.Drax wrote:So Chip, when are we going to get a $5k chawan SO?
Keep your stick on the ice.
R
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I may have put a laughing face on my question, but I was not completely joking. I've had discussions w/ Chip before about a chawan SO (okay, maybe not of $5k caliber).Robert Fornell wrote:So how about a $5k Picasso? Just cultural differences/values perhaps as in the west the perception of ceramics is quite different than that in many parts of the east...... not passing judgement here on whether Tsujimura's chawan are worth $X Y or Z, however I think that it should be recognized, Powerball aside, SO's aside, that different cultures place different values on their respective "art" works.Chip wrote:As soon as we all get together and group buy Mega Millions/Powerball ... and win realllly big.Drax wrote:So Chip, when are we going to get a $5k chawan SO?
Of course, I've always valued the connection I feel to a piece, or an artist's style, over the actual cost...
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Robert Fornell wrote:So how about a $5k Picasso? Just cultural differences/values perhaps as in the west the perception of ceramics is quite different than that in many parts of the east...... not passing judgement here on whether Tsujimura's chawan are worth $X Y or Z, however I think that it should be recognized, Powerball aside, SO's aside, that different cultures place different values on their respective "art" works.
Keep your stick on the ice.
R
Very well said, Robert.
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Hi Robert, I just realize you did had a Yagi Akira piece in the past. I was in a battle for an auction 8 years ago.... Sadly I lostRobert Fornell wrote:Tsujimura Shiro in Boston....
Since then, I've been trying to locate this item. The one you had has a rough rim, the one I love here is smooth:
http://tiny.cc/7mvc1
Do you mind pm-ing me the final price yours were sold for?
Many Many Thanks ~ T
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And that's how one should buy/collect, via the connection felt.Drax wrote:I may have put a laughing face on my question, but I was not completely joking. I've had discussions w/ Chip before about a chawan SO (okay, maybe not of $5k caliber).Robert Fornell wrote:So how about a $5k Picasso? Just cultural differences/values perhaps as in the west the perception of ceramics is quite different than that in many parts of the east...... not passing judgement here on whether Tsujimura's chawan are worth $X Y or Z, however I think that it should be recognized, Powerball aside, SO's aside, that different cultures place different values on their respective "art" works.Chip wrote:As soon as we all get together and group buy Mega Millions/Powerball ... and win realllly big.Drax wrote:So Chip, when are we going to get a $5k chawan SO?
Of course, I've always valued the connection I feel to a piece, or an artist's style, over the actual cost...
However there is an element of educating oneself by looking at/studying chawan which may be quite "expensive" as more often than not, they're spendy for a reason. I have been fortunate when living/traveling in Japan to be able to see/feel/use some very high end work and it has helped train my eye immensely. This is part of the reason the former Japanese prime minister Hosokawa is able to make some excellent chawan after working in clay for only a few years... his family, the former Daimyo of Kumamoto I believe, have surrounded themselves with very high quality work for generations.
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R
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Tim.... unfortunately I'm afraid you have me mistaken for someone else. No knowledge of the Yagi Akira work you speak of.TIM wrote:Hi Robert, I just realize you did had a Yagi Akira piece in the past. I was in a battle for an auction 8 years ago.... Sadly I lostRobert Fornell wrote:Tsujimura Shiro in Boston....
Since then, I've been trying to locate this item. The one you had has a rough rim, the one I love here is smooth:
http://tiny.cc/7mvc1
Do you mind pm-ing me the final price yours were sold for?
Many Many Thanks ~ T
Sorry...
R