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Saladin: More Deishi Hagi!

Postby Saladin » Jun 16th, '12, 16:07

Greetings,

Here is another handsome Deishi tea bowl for your consideration. This one is a cylindrical winter tea bowl, although I was quite tempted to keep it at my desk and use it year round. It is unused and in pristine condition as is the box, which is somewhat unique in that it's hand-signed and has a red stamp.
The "clay flavor" of the bottom is nice on this one and of course it looks better in person than in my mediocre photos. The piece is 10.5 cm tall and 10cm wide. Asking $80 American dollars. Free shipping if you buy two bowls :) Unless you live in HI, AK or Uzbekistan etc.. Normally I charge about $10 for insured UPS ground with insurance which is below actual cost. I live in the lovely and rainy Pacific Northwest fwiw.

Thanks for looking!
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Re: Saladin: More Deishi Hagi!

Postby Saladin » Jun 19th, '12, 13:41

I had a few requests for images of this one hence the photos. It's actually the first bowl I bought off of ebay from Magokorodo back in 2005- 6? It's a quite solid, thickly thrown piece which looks just like most of the other Ido examples of his I've seen. The slip has flaked off the lip in two tiny spots as the glaze is so thin on the edge. If the glaze were thicker it would have held the delicate slip in place. I didn't bang it or anything, it just flaked in my hands. I used it a bit but it's still in good shape and tea looks beautiful over this color clay and glaze. I love old pieces so these chips don't bother me.. Since It's without a box and slightly used and chipped I could part with this for $40. :) Let me know if that seems like highway robbery!
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Re: Saladin: More Deishi Hagi!

Postby Saladin » Jun 19th, '12, 13:46

A few more.
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Re: Saladin: More Deishi Hagi!

Postby Saladin » Jun 19th, '12, 13:49

:mrgreen:
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Re: Saladin: More Deishi Hagi!

Postby AdamMY » Jun 19th, '12, 14:41

Is that sort of flaking unusual? I believe that happened in two places on my Seong-Il teabowl. I couldn't for the life of me figure out what had caused it, because I tend to be very careful with my teaware, and one day suddenly on of the marks was there, a few days later there was another on nearly the complete opposite side of the bowl!
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Re: Saladin: More Deishi Hagi!

Postby Saladin » Jun 19th, '12, 16:37

Adam,

It's actually not that uncommon for a crackle-slip to flake or chip, especially a slip like Deshi is using if it takes a good hit or gets bumped. The cracks you see in his work are actually in the slip and the glaze crawls (pulls away) around the cracks. A slip crackles because it has pulled up and away from itself a bit as it dried, just like a dried out mud puddle. Since a slip doesn't really melt in the kiln and heal, the way a glaze might, the raised edges become brittle after firing. Sometimes the slips don't really stick t o the clay body either. A thick glaze application (like his white rice husk ash glaze) will cover the surface of the slip with a thick shield which will help protect the delicate slip matrix.
If you look at a lot of Korean or Japanese kohiki pots you can see bubbles or raised areas in in the slip (especially at the lip) and you can be certain that it's hollow under there, and if you dig at it it will break and flake off. If you look at old museum pieces from a few hundred years ago it's common to see flaking of this type and missing glaze. Of course the original potters doing this were just trying to make red clay look whiter and all of these cracks and chips were considered defects, which is why the Japanese tea masters found beautiful them ironically. So to answer your question, yes this is technically a flaw, and really shouldn't happen on modern commercial pottery but It's probably just fine for a wabi sabi Deishi tea bowl;) Just be careful with any kohiki pot, especially around the rim and where you see cracks on the surface.
Also sometimes if there is small stone in the clay or plaster a chunk of glaze can spontaneously pop off as the plaster swells. If you send me a photo I could probably tell you what happened,

Best,
John
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Re: Saladin: More Deishi Hagi!

Postby Chip » Jun 19th, '12, 18:47

... I purchased a Deishi chawan several years ago, very similar to yours. Feeling it and tapping fingernails across the glaze told me this was not a particularly hardy glazing and care should definitely be taken. Then out of nowhere, there was the chip. Bugged me especially since I never used it.

Hagi SO 4 featured Biwa wans from Deishi with mega crawl. These do not have that fragile feel to them however. Used hundreds and hundreds of times ... and no chips. But mega staining of the crackles!!!
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Re: Saladin: More Deishi Hagi!

Postby Saladin » Jun 19th, '12, 20:31

Here is a close up of my avatar.. and you can see a couple of big cracks in the slip that have been glazed over. If you pecked at them they would most certainly chip. The dark gray spot is epoxy putty where I filled a missing section that flaked off. See it happens to all of us :mrgreen:
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Re: Saladin: More Deishi Hagi!

Postby Saladin » Jun 24th, '12, 20:46

Okay how about $70 for the white one and $25 for the ido bowl? :mrgreen:
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Re: Saladin: More Deishi Hagi!

Postby debunix » Jun 24th, '12, 20:50

How wide is that bowl?
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Re: Saladin: More Deishi Hagi!

Postby Saladin » Jun 24th, '12, 23:28

Hi there, I can measure the Ido bowl tomorrow as it's at my office. Thanks!
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Re: Saladin: More Deishi Hagi!

Postby Saladin » Jun 26th, '12, 17:55

More eye candy. Kodai image is of the bowl on the left. Thanks for looking!
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Re: Saladin: More Deishi Hagi!

Postby Saladin » Aug 9th, '12, 13:56

Just to be pesky I'm selling this jumbo Deishi guinomi in perfect, unused condition. $25 shipped.. Or $15 if you buy it with one of my tea bowls (ido bowl is sold). :mrgreen:

Cup measures just under 2.75" x 2" tall.
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Re: Saladin: More Deishi Hagi!

Postby debunix » Aug 9th, '12, 20:59

I can say from direct experience that Deishi Kumidashi-chawans--very similar size & shape to this one, just a bit larger--are very very nice to drink from.
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Re: Saladin: More Deishi Hagi!

Postby Saladin » Aug 10th, '12, 13:32

Hi there! Thanks for the feedback. Which bowl were you referring too? The last one I posted was sake cup. I've always wanted one of his big loquat chawan with a dimple. :D
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