Puerhshop Tasting Group's "Year of Green Pu-erh"

One of the intentionally aged teas, Pu-Erh has a loyal following.

Re: Puerhshop Tasting Group's "Year of Green Pu-erh"

Postby apache » Aug 23rd, '12, 03:16

MarshalN wrote:That stuff is kinda nasty, IMHO, but I guess there's a crowd who likes it.

What makes you say it nasty? I'm interested to know a bit more.

User avatar apache
Posts: 625
Joined: Apr 11, '09
Location: UK

Re: Puerhshop Tasting Group's "Year of Green Pu-erh"

Postby apache » Aug 23rd, '12, 19:34

yunnan_sourcing wrote:Reading some more sources now and more carefully... it seems the Yunnan Crab's Claw should be "Viscum articulatum Burm. f"

I suspect one or more of you folks is a botanist?

:-)

- Scott


IMHO, I think the most likely accepted Latin name should be:
Viscum liquidambaricola Hayata (1915)

Here it shows it got three other synonyms, but it is much better to use the accepted name instead.
http://data.sp2000.cn/2011_cnnode_e/show_species_details.php?name_code=a1f7896d-9933-4e55-8e28-cf99d0863fc2

One of the synonyms is:
Viscum articulatum var. Burm. f. var. liquidambaricola (Hayata) Sesh. Rao

This might be the reason it got confused with:
Viscum articulatum Burm. f.
Same genus but species epithet is different.

==========================================================
For those who are interested in how to write plant scientific name correctly, here is a simple guide.

For plant Latin name, it is what called binomial name, it got two parts.
First part is the genus name.
Second part is the species or species epithet,
e.g. Viscum liquidambaricola

Here the genus is Viscum
and the species or epithet is
liquidambaricola

Both genus and epithet should be either in italic or underline. And genus should begin with a capital letter, but epithet begin with lowercase.

After genus and epithet, if the name is not a subspecies (Subspecies name is rather complicate, and I skip this ... ), what followed is the name of the author who was the first person gave description of the plant in some scientific journal. In this example:
Viscum liquidambaricola Hayata (1915)
A person with a surname 'Hayata' described this plant in year 1915.

Sometime for a very well-known author, the author name could be abbreviated,
e.g. Ranunculus abortivus L.
Here 'L.' is Carl Linnaeus.

Occasionally, there are more than one author, the first author will be in bracket, then followed by the latest author.
e.g. Ranunculus aestivalis (L.D.Benson) Van Buren & K.T.Harper 1994

Last edited by apache on Aug 24th, '12, 04:34, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar apache
Posts: 625
Joined: Apr 11, '09
Location: UK

Re: Puerhshop Tasting Group's "Year of Green Pu-erh"

Postby MarshalN » Aug 24th, '12, 00:10

apache wrote:
MarshalN wrote:That stuff is kinda nasty, IMHO, but I guess there's a crowd who likes it.

What makes you say it nasty? I'm interested to know a bit more.


They taste funny, and personally makes me unwell, but these things tend to react differently with different people

User avatar MarshalN
Posts: 2109
Joined: Mar 15, '06
Contact MarshalN:

Re: Puerhshop Tasting Group's "Year of Green Pu-erh"

Postby apache » Aug 24th, '12, 04:49

MarshalN wrote:
apache wrote:
MarshalN wrote:That stuff is kinda nasty, IMHO, but I guess there's a crowd who likes it.

What makes you say it nasty? I'm interested to know a bit more.


They taste funny, and personally makes me unwell, but these things tend to react differently with different people


Thanks for sharing and now I see what you mean. I never tried it myself as I prefer my pu unadulterated.

The Baidu site said this stuff is good for rheumatism, joint pain, cough and some other ailments but if drinking too much, it might cause diarrhea.

User avatar apache
Posts: 625
Joined: Apr 11, '09
Location: UK

Re: Puerhshop Tasting Group's "Year of Green Pu-erh"

Postby Drax » Aug 24th, '12, 06:40

I mentioned this point when I first bumped this thread a couple years back, but if it truly is a Viscum, it may have similar properties to mistletoe, which acts as a vasodilator (causing the blood vessels to expand) -- it would increase blood flow, lower blood pressure and be generally calming....... and probably not good in large amounts! :D

User avatar Drax
Posts: 2879
Joined: Oct 16, '08
Scrolling: scrolling
Location: Arlington, VA
Contact Drax:

Re: Puerhshop Tasting Group's "Year of Green Pu-erh"

Postby apache » Aug 24th, '12, 07:18

To verify whether it is really related to mistletoe, all it need to be done is to find a flower of this crab feet thingy, even a dry and pressed one. Compare the flower to the mistletoe flower, they should have very similar structures, if they are related.

The morphology of vegetative organs of two different species within a genus can vary a lot, but the reproductive part always well conserve within a genus and very often even within a family.

User avatar apache
Posts: 625
Joined: Apr 11, '09
Location: UK

Re: Puerhshop Tasting Group's "Year of Green Pu-erh"

Postby dobermanlover » Aug 24th, '12, 22:16

apache wrote:To verify whether it is really related to mistletoe, all it need to be done is to find a flower of this crab feet thingy, even a dry and pressed one. Compare the flower to the mistletoe flower, they should have very similar structures, if they are related.

The morphology of vegetative organs of two different species within a genus can vary a lot, but the reproductive part always well conserve within a genus and very often even within a family.


Wow... in response to both posts! Thanks for pinning down the exact name for "Crab's Claw". I will rename per your recommendation.

- Scott

dobermanlover
Posts: 14
Joined: Nov 08, '09
Location: Yunnan, China
Contact dobermanlover:

Re: Puerhshop Tasting Group's "Year of Green Pu-erh"

Postby spinmail » Aug 25th, '12, 00:28

I'm in no manner a pu fan (nor will I ever be), this is a really fun and interesting thread; I wish I had come upon it before. It almost makes me want to develop a taste for green pu.

User avatar spinmail
Posts: 110
Joined: May 24, '10

Re: Puerhshop Tasting Group's "Year of Green Pu-erh"

Postby sriracha » Aug 25th, '12, 04:58

spinmail wrote:I'm in no manner a pu fan (nor will I ever be)


Never say never. There was a time when I and green teas weren't friends. At all. =)

User avatar sriracha
Posts: 389
Joined: Jun 15, '09
Location: Lat: N 59º 37' 3.79" Long: E 17º 49' 35.49" or thereabouts


Today's Poll



Community

In total there is 1 user online :: 0 registered, 0 hidden and 1 guest