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Re: Official/Different Yixing Show Off Topic!

Postby Tead Off » Mar 20th, '13, 03:04

bagua7 wrote:
Tead Off wrote:By doing this, I just lost several hundreds of dollars by chipping the knob. :cry:


Sorry to read about your misfortune with your pot. Is it an old zhu ni one? Maybe you could send it to that Japanese master repair potter? I can't remember where I saw his name and what he does exactly but I am pretty sure it was in one of TC's threads. I remember he was charging quite a bit for his work but I guess your pot commands for a proper professional repair. Good luck.

Already used JB Weld. You'd hardly notice it but there is a tiny chip missing. I need to figure out how to fill that tiny hole with some sort of gold pigment mixed with JB Weld. We have a lot of gold leaf here. The pot is already back in my rotation. Thanks.
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Re: Official/Different Yixing Show Off Topic!

Postby bagua7 » Mar 20th, '13, 03:28

Maybe you could find a Thai master potter? of some sort that could do the final touch for you (just hand him the olf leaf and he will take care of the rest). Personally I would panic if I had to do a repair of an antique pot. Too risky!
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Re: Official/Different Yixing Show Off Topic!

Postby Tead Off » Mar 20th, '13, 04:03

bagua7 wrote:Maybe you could find a Thai master potter? of some sort that could do the final touch for you (just hand him the olf leaf and he will take care of the rest). Personally I would panic if I had to do a repair of an antique pot. Too risky!

Mine is not antique. Just from the 80's. I know a Thai master potter but I want to do it myself. It's only clay. :D
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Re: Official/Different Yixing Show Off Topic!

Postby Tead Off » Mar 22nd, '13, 04:32

HERE is a very good article and exhibition of Kintsugi work in case anyone has missed this.
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Re: Official/Different Yixing Show Off Topic!

Postby JB-ONE » Mar 24th, '13, 10:46

80 ml from Origin Tea 90s. I was told it came from either factory 1 or a factory 1 potter. I had someone take a look at it in Chinatown yesterday who sells yixings and they thought it was a Yixing, but they think it was it was made in Taiwan. It does also have those circular rings around the insisde.

Any thoughts?
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Re: Official/Different Yixing Show Off Topic!

Postby TIM » Mar 24th, '13, 16:45

JB-ONE wrote:80 ml from Origin Tea 90s. I was told it came from either factory 1 or a factory 1 potter. I had someone take a look at it in Chinatown yesterday who sells yixings and they thought it was a Yixing, but they think it was it was made in Taiwan. It does also have those circular rings around the insisde.

Any thoughts?


Bottom stamp and inside lid pics?
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Re: Official/Different Yixing Show Off Topic!

Postby futurebird » Mar 24th, '13, 17:06

What is the tea like when you use it. Don't let superficial things get in the way of what matters.
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Re: Official/Different Yixing Show Off Topic!

Postby JB-ONE » Mar 24th, '13, 18:17

Tim: Thanks for taking a look. Do those circles on the inside mean it's wheel thrown? My other yixings don't have them.

Futurebird: Thanks. I havent used it enough yet to tell yet.
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Re: Official/Different Yixing Show Off Topic!

Postby edkrueger » Mar 24th, '13, 21:46

JB-ONE wrote:Thanks for taking a look. Do those circles on the inside mean it's wheel thrown? My other yixings don't have them.


The lid doesn't have circles. So, would you think that the lid was molded and the body was thrown?
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Re: Official/Different Yixing Show Off Topic!

Postby JB-ONE » Mar 24th, '13, 22:37

edkrueger wrote:
JB-ONE wrote:Thanks for taking a look. Do those circles on the inside mean it's wheel thrown? My other yixings don't have them.


The lid doesn't have circles. So, would you think that the lid was molded and the body was thrown?


I'm really not sure as I still have a lot to learn. Were factory pots made in Yixing ever crafted in that way or were they usually mold or slip cast?
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Re: Official/Different Yixing Show Off Topic!

Postby Tead Off » Mar 25th, '13, 00:25

From your photo, it's not clear that those are circles from a wheel on the inside of the lid. They could be fine tool marks. The pot looks like Yixing but hard to tell from a photo. Factory 1 pots were not wheel thrown.
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Re: Official/Different Yixing Show Off Topic!

Postby edkrueger » Mar 25th, '13, 15:17

JB-ONE wrote:I had someone take a look at it in Chinatown yesterday who sells yixings and they thought it was a Yixing, but they think it was it was made in Taiwan.


That is bizarre. Why would someone have clay shipped to Taiwan, where labor is more expensive, in order to make factory pots?
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Re: Official/Different Yixing Show Off Topic!

Postby SilentChaos » Mar 25th, '13, 15:47

Hi all,

If I remember correctly, the pot purchased by JB-ONE is the exact one I have up on the site. Regarding the circular rings in question, they are tool marks. Here is a higher res picture: http://tinyurl.com/c7mt764.
(Please do zoom in on the red highlight squares. The marks on the inner rim offers some perspective.)

There has been some misunderstanding about 'who made this pot' due to some rather sloppy communication on my part, for which I apologize. From what information I have on these pots, and as far as we are able to tell, this is a "commodity pot" (Shang Pin Hu) made for practical daily use, and made in large numbers by factory 1 technicians/lower-tire-craftsman (Ji Shi). Do please correct me if you find otherwise.

Happy sipping :)
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Re: Official/Different Yixing Show Off Topic!

Postby TIM » Mar 25th, '13, 19:20

Where is Chris 42 when we need him :lol:
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Re: Official/Different Yixing Show Off Topic!

Postby wyardley » Mar 25th, '13, 22:02

I can't say what type of construction was used for the pot pictured, but I can say this.

The Yixing potters do use a small banding wheel, and sometimes they will use tools to smooth things or alter the pot's shape somewhat while turning the wheel (though it's still a very different type of construction from wheel throwing a pot). While most of the time, you won't see any rings inside after they've finished detailing it, I think some Yixing pots from the 70s-80s may indeed have marks inside that are fairly similar to the ones pictured.

Thrown pots can, and often do, have the marks smoothed out so that they're not visible.

So, very even rings around the whole inside of the pot would imply a thrown pot, but you will find thrown pots which don't have visible rings inside.
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