Real or Fake Dayi? Pros and Cons of collecting Dayi?

[auhckw]

To find the mystery of the stickers, I did a scan through my Ripe Dayi and I noticed a pattern. Only certain type of sticker respond. And if those that doesn't respond, if used by other recipe across different years will remain not respond too.

When free, I will try to scan through my Raw Dayi but my assumptions are that it will return same results.

2010 – 大益宫廷普洱 – 熟普洱
2010 – Da Yi Gong Ting Pu Er – Ripe Pu-erh





2009 – 大益红韵圆茶 – 熟普洱
2009 – Da Yi Hong Yun Yuan Cha – Ripe Pu-erh



2009 – 大益龙柱圆茶 – 熟普洱
2009 – Da Yi Long Zhu Yuan Cha – Ripe Pu-erh





2009 – 大益金砖 – 熟普洱
2009 – Da Yi Jin Zhuan – Ripe Pu-erh





All my other ripe using the same sticker as the Jin Zhuan will respond.

[apache]

This really brings forgery to the next level.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/ju ... pple-store

Say if I were in a Dayi Specialist shop in China, how do I know if that shop is real or fake? Or if the shop is fake, could it still sell real Dayi cakes? Or if the shop is real, could it still sell fake Dayi cakes? Or cakes with real wrapping paper, but fake cakes? This is doing my head in.

[Drax]

This really brings forgery to the next level.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/ju ... pple-store

Say if I were in a Dayi Specialist shop in China, how do I know if that shop is real or fake? Or if the shop is fake, could it still sell real Dayi cakes? Or if the shop is real, could it still sell fake Dayi cakes? Or cakes with real wrapping paper, but fake cakes? This is doing my head in.

I saw this story as well and it also made me think about fake tea. The amazing thing about the fake apple stores is that the blogger who initially "discovered" and wrote about them said that the employees who worked there really thought they worked for Apple.....!

[odarwin]

On a different note thou, I'm curious as to why dayi changed their English name from da yi tea to tae tea?

Is that da yi tea to the usual westerner sounds like die tea?

Da yi seems to be just right thou in my opinion since it's the direct pinyin pronunciation of the Chinese character... And here in the Philippines, I doubt it if da yi would be able to sell any cakes cause tae literally means $h!+ in Tagalog

[auhckw]

On a different note thou, I'm curious as to why dayi changed their English name from da yi tea to tae tea?

Is that da yi tea to the usual westerner sounds like die tea?

Da yi seems to be just right thou in my opinion since it's the direct pinyin pronunciation of the Chinese character... And here in the Philippines, I doubt it if da yi would be able to sell any cakes cause tae literally means $h!+ in Tagalog

Hehe...

Tahi = $h!t in Bahasa Malaysia. Rhymes like Dayi

HaiWan = Animal in Bahasa Malaysia

[gingkoseto]

On a different note thou, I'm curious as to why dayi changed their English name from da yi tea to tae tea?

Is that da yi tea to the usual westerner sounds like die tea?

Da yi seems to be just right thou in my opinion since it's the direct pinyin pronunciation of the Chinese character... And here in the Philippines, I doubt it if da yi would be able to sell any cakes cause tae literally means $h!+ in Tagalog

Probably related to Dayi's attempt several years ago to nurture its own European market in Germany. If they want to develop a big market, pinyin can be a big language barrier for average western customers. Usually only "serious" tea drinkers use pinyin.

[Dass]

Let's keep what personal preference be as a personal thing ok. I am very happy with what I have bought and collected. At the end of day, it is after all the most important factor in drinking tea.

Above all, I think that is the most important.
Honestly I am surprised that teashop in Malaysia also buy back aged stuffs from any personal at that margin.

Do you have certain method to age your tea there?

It is not certain method but the climate in Malaysia is good to age tea.
A tea kept in Malaysia for 1 year is same as kept in China for 3 years.
Thats why China tea drinkers now want aged tea kept in Malaysia.
The most sought after tea kept from Malaysia now in China is - 88 Green cake and 97 Clear Blue Water tea ( dont know if the words are correct in English). If I have theses cakes with me now, I can walk to any tea shop here and they will pay me cash USD 320 for the 97 and USD 1050 for the 88.

The other example is the 2010 70th anniversary Dayi Tea. When I bought a box when it was released,the price was USD 360 a box and that was November last year. But currently if I give back the box to the tea shop I can get USD 770.

Hi Dass - Love to buy a sample from you on a 88 green cake (7542), a 10 grams perhaps? I would love to see how Malay storage can speed up that 3 years claim you did suggeste... that was your previous life in teachat before you abandon us a couple years ago?

Since i do have a few of this cakes from the original mr. chan's storage to Tawianese and Canada storages, it will be interesting to do a side by side tasting and share with chatters here.

Please do let me know if this is possible from you. Big thanks in advance ~ Toki

Hi Toki,
Sorry for the late reply.I think auhckw has sent you the tea.Hope you enjoy it.

Dass

[odarwin]

since i notice that cloud has already been posting replies in some of the pu erh threads here, im curious as to what he thinks about this topic

@cloud, mind sharing your thoughts here?

[Dass]

I just want to share this as I think it goes along with this topic.
In 2008, I bought a box of Dayi High Mountain RAW. 42 pcs in a box.
The cost RM 750 (USD 250)
Yesterday I sold it back to the shop as they asked me if I want to sell back to them as there are people looking for it.
So I sold it back to the at RM 2000 (USD 666)

Auhckw can verify this as he was with me yesterday when I brought the tea back to the shop.And the price RM 2000 was offered by the shop.I could have asked more maybe RM2100.

BTW: This tea has changed well and it taste good.Its heading the right way if you want to keep it for further aging.
Dass