Playing some more this morning (not that I have the time ahhhhh).
Different subject & setting.
Outside, wb set to daylight, color V.
1st shot tripod at approx 4.5ft, f4, 1/10s.
2nd shot tripod closer at 3ft.
Also, for experiment, changed to f4.5 and 1/13s. (As I write this it occurs that perhaps I should've gone to f5 and played with 1/15 and 1/20 just to get a clearer idea of effect.
Sh!#, I've got to get ready for work!!!
Dec 18th, '09, 13:51
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Re: How to: photograph your teaware. A beginner's guide.
Okay, so, I think I need to just vent...
Hope it's alright.
Don't know quite what's happening, but - I'm starting to hit a frustration phase with the camera - wanting to be more creative, struggling with light sources, wanting nice images but not knowing how to do that; I have a North-South facing house, no composing-accessible windows facing South where the sun arc is now, and zero windows facing West, the one North facing window is the sliding door opening out to a covered patio, and, you know, *BOO*, *BOO*, *BOO* ; camera wouldn't focus today - couple of images were just blur and it was a clear sunny day today - this is probably a good argument for a more manual capable camera - there's no way to manually focus with either of my cams. I know about the partial shutter button press - didn't help hardly at all ; camera, all set, on tripod, would sort of be moving in and out of focus, and not stay focused, hmmmph; completely confusing to me ).
Also, at this point I'm just sort of playing with the aperture and exposure settings, and looking at the monitor to try to guesstimate whether the image is exposed appropriately enough.
Perhaps this is the learning curve and where much patience will be required.
Urrrr.
My "Today's Matcha" photos today were luckily in focus, but others just wouldn't.
Any idea what's up with the focus thing?
(I was using the Canon S2IS).
Hope it's alright.
Don't know quite what's happening, but - I'm starting to hit a frustration phase with the camera - wanting to be more creative, struggling with light sources, wanting nice images but not knowing how to do that; I have a North-South facing house, no composing-accessible windows facing South where the sun arc is now, and zero windows facing West, the one North facing window is the sliding door opening out to a covered patio, and, you know, *BOO*, *BOO*, *BOO* ; camera wouldn't focus today - couple of images were just blur and it was a clear sunny day today - this is probably a good argument for a more manual capable camera - there's no way to manually focus with either of my cams. I know about the partial shutter button press - didn't help hardly at all ; camera, all set, on tripod, would sort of be moving in and out of focus, and not stay focused, hmmmph; completely confusing to me ).
Also, at this point I'm just sort of playing with the aperture and exposure settings, and looking at the monitor to try to guesstimate whether the image is exposed appropriately enough.
Perhaps this is the learning curve and where much patience will be required.
Urrrr.
My "Today's Matcha" photos today were luckily in focus, but others just wouldn't.
Any idea what's up with the focus thing?
(I was using the Canon S2IS).
Re: How to: photograph your teaware. A beginner's guide.
No advice but to commiserate, I spent an hour today trying to photograph anything worth posting. The lighting was just plain bad. I was so disappointed when I looked at the pics about 40 of them and only one decent and it was slightly out of focus. I guess there will just be days like this.
Dec 22nd, '09, 22:27
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Re: How to: photograph your teaware. A beginner's guide.
For me, the best way to learn is to look at other photographer's site. Trying first to copy their angles, distances and focal pt.
Here is one good example, whom I love:
http://www.annawilliamsphotography.com/
Hope this helps. Shoot it when it excite your eyes, at the same proportion and context. T
Here is one good example, whom I love:
http://www.annawilliamsphotography.com/
Hope this helps. Shoot it when it excite your eyes, at the same proportion and context. T
Dec 22nd, '09, 23:48
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Re: How to: photograph your teaware. A beginner's guide.
Tim, you seem to have emulated Anna Williams quite well, your images and hers share some compositional traits that I can't quite describe w/ words. Maybe its the idea of cluttered images that retain a sense of focused minimalism... selective focus in images with solitary objects... or largely monochromatic images punctuated with bursts of color
Re: How to: photograph your teaware. A beginner's guide.
Thanks Tim and Thanks Victoria.
I am comforted.
Whew.
Patience,
always been a bit of a struggle...
I am comforted.
Whew.
Patience,
always been a bit of a struggle...
Dec 23rd, '09, 02:35
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Re: How to: photograph your teaware. A beginner's guide.
Hey no worries, man. Everytime I try new techniques, I churn out a lot of crap at first. That's why they call it a learning curve. It can be very frustrating, I know. I went through a really REALLY bad phase a couple of months back, where I felt like I couldn't get a decent image to save my life. But eventually that passes, and you'll discover you've improved.
Re: How to: photograph your teaware. A beginner's guide.
Thanks GG - very reassuring, and I appreciate your support so very much.
Happiest of happy's to you and merriest of merry's.
Cheers.
Happiest of happy's to you and merriest of merry's.
Cheers.
Re: How to: photograph your teaware. A beginner's guide.
This was a stretch for me today - so I thought I'd share.
The only window that emits direct sunlight is on the landing in the middle of a switchback stair - very small area (landing about 3'x6'). So I set up a TV tray on the small landing and had to set myself and my tripod up on the stairs above the landing. Here's a photo of the landing & stair:
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(click image to enlarge).
To add to the difficulty, we are just emerging from a storm pattern, but it isn't fully gone, so clouds are adrift -- the light kept changing! Dramatically!
But finally the light held (in a cloudy condition - so I switched wb to cloudy). I shot at f3.5 and 1/80 (color on V - doing this always now).
Whew - very difficult and frustrating peeling my 6'5" frame from the camera/tripod setup to attempt to correct composition - I feel fortunate both me and the camera survived!
After taking a couple of shots, I was sure the photos would be crap.
But I uploaded to computer, and checked 'em out.
I was surprised to find myself happy with one of the three shots I took! I deleted the other two.
Here's the shot (also on "Today's Matcha"):
(click to enlarge)
Curious what you think?
The only window that emits direct sunlight is on the landing in the middle of a switchback stair - very small area (landing about 3'x6'). So I set up a TV tray on the small landing and had to set myself and my tripod up on the stairs above the landing. Here's a photo of the landing & stair:
.
(click image to enlarge).
To add to the difficulty, we are just emerging from a storm pattern, but it isn't fully gone, so clouds are adrift -- the light kept changing! Dramatically!
But finally the light held (in a cloudy condition - so I switched wb to cloudy). I shot at f3.5 and 1/80 (color on V - doing this always now).
Whew - very difficult and frustrating peeling my 6'5" frame from the camera/tripod setup to attempt to correct composition - I feel fortunate both me and the camera survived!
After taking a couple of shots, I was sure the photos would be crap.
But I uploaded to computer, and checked 'em out.
I was surprised to find myself happy with one of the three shots I took! I deleted the other two.
Here's the shot (also on "Today's Matcha"):
(click to enlarge)
Curious what you think?
Re: How to: photograph your teaware. A beginner's guide.
I think it is a fabulous shot!! I don't care for what is in the background and found it distracting, so I copied and cropped and now I really, really love it!!
Dec 30th, '09, 15:56
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Re: How to: photograph your teaware. A beginner's guide.
I love it! Nice light and color, and your composition is pretty good. (I totally understand the difficulties of shooting in an unfortunate position. Two suggestions: in your crop, on the left side of the frame, it's usually best to either crop dramatically, or leave a bit of a border outside of the object. When the crop shaves just a sliver off the object it looks like the framing was a little off.
Your table decoration in the back, same thing. Pull it into the frame slightly, you can still have the suggestion of the toy in the background, but it will feel less like you forgot to clear your space, and more like you want to accent the main object.
All in all, though, really nice! Gorgeous bowl too!
(p.s. I'm only giving these little opinions because you have posted in this thread. I hope it's okay that I comment like this.)
Your table decoration in the back, same thing. Pull it into the frame slightly, you can still have the suggestion of the toy in the background, but it will feel less like you forgot to clear your space, and more like you want to accent the main object.
All in all, though, really nice! Gorgeous bowl too!
(p.s. I'm only giving these little opinions because you have posted in this thread. I hope it's okay that I comment like this.)
Dec 30th, '09, 16:16
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Re: How to: photograph your teaware. A beginner's guide.
considering this is "A Beginners Guide" here are 3 tips:
1. Stuck in an artistic rut? try minimalism
2. long exposures yield surreal images
3. lighting is EVERYTHING
1. Stuck in an artistic rut? try minimalism
2. long exposures yield surreal images
3. lighting is EVERYTHING
Re: How to: photograph your teaware. A beginner's guide.
Thank you GG!
I post here because I'm hopeful that you will make comments and suggestions.
So again, many thanks.
Wow T, great shots!
Nice advice too.
Hmmm, how can I put those into action...
(and I love that green, translucent tea cup! What is it made of?)
I post here because I'm hopeful that you will make comments and suggestions.
So again, many thanks.
Wow T, great shots!
Nice advice too.
Hmmm, how can I put those into action...
(and I love that green, translucent tea cup! What is it made of?)