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Best Yixing Teapot Sellers?

by Woots » Nov 11th, '08, 10:42

I am new to this website and new to the tea enthusiast world. I am looking to start a collection of Yixing pots (1 for each of my favorite flavors of teas).

I would like to ask some Yixing teapot collectors out there who their favorite Yixing Teapot vendors are?

I couldn't find an official list on the Teachat forums so I thought I would ask. I have done a lot of Googling and came up with a heavy list of Yixing Vendors that seem credible. However, when it comes to shopping online, when you stray off the beaten path looks can be deceiving.

Please let me know if the vendors on my list are reliable, credible and sell legitimate Yixing pots.

Websites:
- http://www.yixing.com/
- http://www.yuzumura.com/s-10-china.aspx
- http://www.teapotmart.com/teapots.html
- http://funalliance.com/tea/yixing.htm
- http://www.mrslinskitchen.com/index.asp ... egory=1388

E-Bayers:
- http://stores.ebay.com/Chinese-Teapot-G ... ea-Culture
- http://stores.ebay.com/Yunnan-Sourcing-LLC
- http://stores.ebay.com/5000friend


Please critique this vendor list (good or bad) if you had any prior experiences with them. Also, feel free to add any other vendors to the list if you had good experiences with them.

Thanks to all in advance for your help! :)

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by edkrueger » Nov 11th, '08, 12:28

http://www.yixing.com/
Never ordered any thing from here, but they look like pretty bottom quality slip cast pots and are expensive.

http://www.yuzumura.com/s-10-china.aspx
Never ordered from here. I like the prices and the pots seem like good quality. If you like the square shapes you can get some handmade pots more cheaply –they are much easier to make. The only problem with these is how large they are. Its expensive to gongfu with large pots. However, I have some large yixing that I use for semi-western style brewing. If you decide on one of these, I'd like to know how they are in person.

http://www.teapotmart.com/teapots.html
Junky, slip cast, large and expensive.

http://funalliance.com/tea/yixing.htm
One of my favorite teapots came from here. Also, the boxes they come in are nice.

http://www.mrslinskitchen.com/
Junky, slip cast, large and expensive.

http://stores.ebay.com/
NO.

http://stores.ebay.com/Yunnan-Sourcing-LLC
Amazingly, I don't own any from here, but that will be fixed soon. Good experiences with vendor on tea orders.

http://stores.ebay.com/5000friend
Love them. I have one 1920s Yixing Gaiwan from them. Amazing packing, could probably fall out of the plane and survive. I got some other teapots indirectly from them from a forum member –can't say much about his packing. :evil:

To add:
http://www.sevencups.com/
Got two from here, my best purple clay. Slightly expensive, but low shipping and yo should get a $10 off gift cert for registering.

http://www.houdeasianart.com/index.php? ... cce99c92ce
Great site. I buy lots of tea here. I got the above set from they. The other yixings there are expensive antiques.

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by Woots » Nov 11th, '08, 12:34

Amazing... just the kind of info I was looking for. Thanks for taking the time! :)

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by edkrueger » Nov 11th, '08, 12:37

Happy to help. I made a lot of mistakes at first with "yixing." Hopefully, you won't have to.

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by Woots » Nov 11th, '08, 13:14

edkrueger wrote:Happy to help. I made a lot of mistakes at first with "yixing." Hopefully, you won't have to.
Yes the more research I did with Yixing the more pitfalls and traps I found. Its why I stepped back a few paces and decided to get a lot more serious with my research before I jump in.

Thanks again for sharing your experiences. Yixing does seem appealing to me; the history and tradition, as well as the taste that develops over time.

Are the 1920's pots from 5000friend real antiques or faux antiques? If they are real my concern was do they know what kind of tea was used with them over its history? (do they tell you in the packaging materials)? Or after 80+ years of non use does the seasoning process wear off... thus making it not important?

I have read several places its important to only use 1 type of tea per Yixing pot forever cause the flavor builds up on the untreated walls.

With the way China has become very industrious over the last decade +, and Chinese culture becoming very affluent, I have read the Yixing business there has began to boom (due to extremely high demand). The sad thing is when that happens its hard to find the "high quality" products in the myriad of mass produced low quality pots. For this reason I think the antique Yixing pots are the way to go. I just want to be sure if I buy a antique Yixing that I continue to use the type of tea the original owners did.

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by Maitre_Tea » Nov 11th, '08, 14:50

Woots wrote:
edkrueger wrote:Happy to help. I made a lot of mistakes at first with "yixing." Hopefully, you won't have to.
Yes the more research I did with Yixing the more pitfalls and traps I found. Its why I stepped back a few paces and decided to get a lot more serious with my research before I jump in.

Thanks again for sharing your experiences. Yixing does seem appealing to me; the history and tradition, as well as the taste that develops over time.

Are the 1920's pots from 5000friend real antiques or faux antiques? If they are real my concern was do they know what kind of tea was used with them over its history? (do they tell you in the packaging materials)? Or after 80+ years of non use does the seasoning process wear off... thus making it not important?

I have read several places its important to only use 1 type of tea per Yixing pot forever cause the flavor builds up on the untreated walls.

With the way China has become very industrious over the last decade +, and Chinese culture becoming very affluent, I have read the Yixing business there has began to boom (due to extremely high demand). The sad thing is when that happens its hard to find the "high quality" products in the myriad of mass produced low quality pots. For this reason I think the antique Yixing pots are the way to go. I just want to be sure if I buy a antique Yixing that I continue to use the type of tea the original owners did.
These questions seem to rage on this forum from time to time, with what's "real" or not. I've heard from other forum members that 5000friends basically sells fake vintage. Regarding the "one tea, one teapot" theory, I don't buy it. If that were true, you're going to need a lot of teapots. I follow the school of dedicating one teapot to a kind of tea, like one for greener oolongs, one for roasted oolongs, one for wuyi, etc. But it also depends on how much money you have, because if you can't afford only nice teapots, you might have tons of mid-quality teapots or a handful of really really nice teapots.
Regarding "antique" yixing teapots, they can be expensive...really, really expensive. My Uncle, who used to sell yixing teapots, said that the really cheap ones are really cheap, and the good ones are overpriced. Antique yixing is better because the clay is bound to be "authentic," but it takes so much time and energy to be an expert on clay composition, and even at that, there's always the possibility of being fooled. My advice would be to never overpay for any yixing teapot, unless you can absolutely trust the vendor with your life. Oh yeah, "authentic" yixing clay doesn't really exist anymore, since it was all mined during the 50s and 60s, so the clay we get now is just a close approximation. In terms of vendors, Yunnan Sourcing seems to be pretty solid. The prices are not bad, and the teapots are of sound quality.

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by chrl42 » Nov 11th, '08, 15:22

my opinion.

i've not got to know many yixing vendors online, but here i wanna state some vendor.

1. yunnan sourcing
they don't sell fake pots(clay they claim however not reliable). for economic purpose, i think they have ok pots for tea drinker. clays they sell, mid to low. seems like his pots are what fill China's market nowadays

2. houde
i think they have good pots, price however a bit pricy (maybe a bit more)

3. deeho.com
they sell pots of zhu dan, zhu bin etc.. famous young masters who will be likely to sparkle in the future. they are one of top-level masters in china nowadays. clays mostly from huang long mt. skilled at making and innovative to top

problem is they don't sell pots less than 700 usd.

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by edkrueger » Nov 11th, '08, 16:28

Unseasoning a teapot is rather easy. Just boil it in some water for ten minutes. Add some tea seed powder [optional] and boil it for another ten minutes. If you used the powder, dump out the water and reboil with some tealeaves of the variety you want to use in the pot for 10 minutes. If not, just add tea leaves for ten minutes.

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by Woots » Nov 11th, '08, 17:44

A lot of insight here everyone. Thank you.

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by shogun89 » Nov 11th, '08, 18:03

I got 2 inexpensive yixings form Yunnan Sourcing (YSLLC) for about $10 each and they are of very high quality. Thin walled, potters wheel made, and make they desired pinging noise when struck with the lid.

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by Drax » Nov 11th, '08, 18:53

Likewise, I got a $30 pot from Yunnan Sourcing, and it has turned out really well.

I also got Seven Cups' cheapest pot (the one w/ the sunset on the side). I have really enjoyed this pot a lot. It might ride on the higher side, but I don't see the pots they offer anywhere else.

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by Woots » Nov 11th, '08, 21:07

Do all of you use 1 pot for each flavor of tea? Or just one pot for each type of tea? Or maybe not bothered by which tea you use in your Yixing at all?

It certainly will be expensive if I use 1 pot per flavor. Although I have very few favorites tea blends that would warrant a 50-200 dollar pot dedicated to it ...so it may not be as bad as it seems. I would be happy with 2-3 pots to start off with.
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by Maitre_Tea » Nov 11th, '08, 21:08

Woots wrote:Do all of you use 1 pot for each flavor of tea? Or just one pot for each type of tea? Or maybe not bothered by which tea you use in your Yixing at all?
Regarding the "one tea, one teapot" theory, I don't buy it. If that were true, you're going to need a lot of teapots. I follow the school of dedicating one teapot to a kind of tea, like one for greener oolongs, one for roasted oolongs, one for wuyi, etc. But it also depends on how much money you have, because if you can't afford only nice teapots, you might have tons of mid-quality teapots or a handful of really really nice teapots.

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by Drax » Nov 11th, '08, 21:30

Right now I've just got a pot for oolongs and puerh. My next one will be for black tea (which still hasn't arrived... hmmm).

I will probably wait a bit and then maybe buy one or two more, after I get a feel for how big of one I want, etc. I think I'll do like Maitre Tea says and split oolongs between greener and roasted, and probably puerh between raw and ripe.

Other more experienced drinkers will probably have some suggestions on other ways to split pot allocation.

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by Maitre_Tea » Nov 11th, '08, 21:33

Drax wrote:Right now I've just got a pot for oolongs and puerh. My next one will be for black tea (which still hasn't arrived... hmmm).

I will probably wait a bit and then maybe buy one or two more, after I get a feel for how big of one I want, etc. I think I'll do like Maitre Tea says and split oolongs between greener and roasted, and probably puerh between raw and ripe.

Other more experienced drinkers will probably have some suggestions on other ways to split pot allocation.
In addition to splitting into raw and ripe puerh, I've heard that there should be teapot for young raw puerh and aged raw puerh

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