Official Pu of the day

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Re: Official Pu of the day

by kuánglóng » Sep 1st, '16, 04:53

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I've noticed that higher quality teas come through well in most situations. Other teas require more finesse!
Not exactly my experience and besides .... how do we define quality of something as complex as tea? Anyway, there sure are teas that require (and deserve) a lot more attention to detail than others to really shine through. One reason I love those Himalayan leaves and shengs that much is exactly this: some can be finicky as hell and still challenge the living c..p out of me after all those years, especially compared to something more 'stoic' like e.g. the average el-cheapo, nuke-ish, just-add-hot-water Tie Guan Yin.
BTW, one thing that puzzled me back in the day when I still used to smoke next to drinking a casual cup of tea is that I could taste almost the entire flavor spectrum of some TGY whereas most of my Darjeelings and shengs tasted more like hot water.
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I have a two stage system with a prefilter that takes care of particles, ans prevents the carbon-block from premature clogging. From what I remember the carbon-block stage removes 99.xxx% of the organic compounds (agrochemicals, pharmaceuticals/antibiotics (big issue over here), bacteria, ...) and most heavy metals. It's been developed for professional applications and is used in the food industry, universities, by the Red Cross, NGOs, ... couldn't be more happy.
I notice changes with weather. My guess is that changes in temp and humidity of my storage area impact the tea. It's been 65-70% RH and 65-80'F in there, and most teas are tasting great. Of course water really impacts things too. And teaware. And my mood. :D :cry:
Yep, climate, water, teaware (cups, cups, cups :D ), mood and whatnot but looking forward to being on the road for another while I keep most of my teas in multilayer bags at more or less constant temperatures and they don't seem to mind the weather that much that way.
Can't wait to fly back home though and expose my bings to the average 25°C and 75%RH down there but that's yet another story (clearing customs with 40+ kg of strange looking leaves :lol: )

Sorry for another ramble - back OT.
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Re: Official Pu of the day

by Rui » Sep 1st, '16, 05:02

For the ones interested 2016 JINGMAI GULAN raw pu'er cakes are back in stock at Bannacha.com.

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Re: Official Pu of the day

by Rui » Sep 1st, '16, 05:22

Sipping a very nice fairly smooth and aromatic 2016 Qing Mei Shan raw pu'er from Yunnan Sourcing.

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Re: Official Pu of the day

by kuánglóng » Sep 1st, '16, 06:50

2015 Hai Lang Hao 'Gao Shan Chen Yun' - 5g/80ml in a celadon gaiwan

Allegedly pressed from mao cha that has been lying around somewhere for a while and it shows. Takes a good three soaking steeps and some time in between to slowly get these leaves out of hibernation and by the time there's something distinct happening at the front end the humble texture is gone for good and you're left with a pretty thin soup of sorts. There's a bit of adstringency and complementing bitterness but I taste more beef stock (bone marrow) than anything else and this keeps going for more than ~13 steeps. Regarding qi and other more somatic aspects there's not much to talk about other than a salivating tongue during the 3rd-5th round. I'll give this another try but there's not much hope to get much more out of these leaves even somewhere further down the road. If one of my friends should happen to like this stuff s/he can have the cake for free. 4 zzzz out of 5 :mrgreen:

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Re: Official Pu of the day

by stevorama » Sep 1st, '16, 19:29

kuánglóng wrote: Sorry for another ramble - back OT.
No worries. It's true, what I said about high quality teas was overly simplistic. Good luck with customs and your stash!

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Re: Official Pu of the day

by kuánglóng » Sep 2nd, '16, 03:05

stevorama wrote: Good luck with customs and your stash!
Thanks, Steve.

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Re: Official Pu of the day

by kuánglóng » Sep 2nd, '16, 04:06

2002 Yongpinhao Red Yiwu Zheng Shan - 5g/80ml in a celadon gaiwan.

Some beautiful, complex flavor in there - not much of it though. The remaining bitterness and slight adstringency appear somewhat like a last act of resistance to escape the unavoidable.
Steep after steep I feel like searching for a dried out flower bouquet in the corner of a dusty old attic in the flickering light of a candle. The rest of the story seems equally deserted, this old wood house has seen better days - thin, faint echoes instead of aftertaste, not much texture or energy left to speak of, another ghost tea, oh well ...
Can't believe this stuff sells for $260, I wouldn't accept one for free. YMMV.

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Re: Official Pu of the day

by stevorama » Sep 2nd, '16, 20:18

2014 Chawangpu Jingmai Gu Shu Huang Pian. Pleasant tea. Very approachable. Using larger quantity and longer steeps. Tried both mao cha and cake of this tea. I think I prefer the mao cha as it seemed to have more fragrance. Not sure why.

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Re: Official Pu of the day

by jayinhk » Sep 2nd, '16, 21:30

stevorama wrote:2014 Chawangpu Jingmai Gu Shu Huang Pian. Pleasant tea. Very approachable. Using larger quantity and longer steeps. Tried both mao cha and cake of this tea. I think I prefer the mao cha as it seemed to have more fragrance. Not sure why.
Interesting--must be something about the steaming and pressing process. I do like drinking maocha!

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Re: Official Pu of the day

by stevorama » Sep 3rd, '16, 14:23

jayinhk wrote:Interesting--must be something about the steaming and pressing process. I do like drinking maocha!
Must be. And perhaps because there's less breakage of the leaves with maocha.

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Re: Official Pu of the day

by jayinhk » Sep 4th, '16, 01:13

stevorama wrote:
jayinhk wrote:Interesting--must be something about the steaming and pressing process. I do like drinking maocha!
Must be. And perhaps because there's less breakage of the leaves with maocha.
Broken leaves = more surface area for oxidation = less volatile compounds = goodbye fragrance :(

Drinking cha tou I bought at a tea market in Kunming. Brewing in a 500ml F1 zisha pot. This tea appears to have mellowed in the local humidity and lost the very slightly unpleasant edge it had to it--just smooth, pleasant drinking now. Interesting that that edge dissipated with only a few months of storage here, but I'm happy it did, since I have almost a kilo of these cha tou! It'll be interesting to see how this tea evolves over the years, if I don't drink/give it all away before it gets some real age. I sure do like small cha tou!

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Re: Official Pu of the day

by kuánglóng » Sep 4th, '16, 04:43

2014 Qing Mei Shan [YS] - 5g/80ml in a celadon gaiwan

I've taken to brewing this sheng at around 90°C to get a more balanced front end and to enhance the unique, dew like character of this tea. This has a gentle, but pretty powerful vitalizing energy and some unique, fresh mouthfeel along with a lovely, long aftertaste I find hard to describe; juicy apple skin comes fairly close. Since it's one of those shengs that I primarily like for their freshness and I'm somewhat afraid that it won't age well I will probably vacuum seal some of it 20g wise and put some of those bags in the freezer for future comparisons.

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Re: Official Pu of the day

by Rui » Sep 5th, '16, 03:52

kuánglóng wrote:2014 Qing Mei Shan [YS] - 5g/80ml in a celadon gaiwan

I've taken to brewing this sheng at around 90°C to get a more balanced front end and to enhance the unique, dew like character of this tea. This has a gentle, but pretty powerful vitalizing energy and some unique, fresh mouthfeel along with a lovely, long aftertaste I find hard to describe; juicy apple skin comes fairly close. Since it's one of those shengs that I primarily like for their freshness and I'm somewhat afraid that it won't age well I will probably vacuum seal some of it 20g wise and put some of those bags in the freezer for future comparisons.
Yes it is a very yummy tea and I also use water temperature around 90 degrees C while the 2016 version I steep it at the even lower temperature of 80 degress C for exactly the same reason.

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Re: Official Pu of the day

by kuánglóng » Sep 5th, '16, 04:12

Rui wrote:
Yes it is a very yummy tea and I also use water temperature around 90 degrees C while the 2016 version I steep it at the even lower temperature of 80 degress C for exactly the same reason.
Nice to hear about that, Rui; I haven't tried the 2016 version though. Have you tried any of this stuff by chance ?

2012 Yin Hao tuo cha [greenteaguru - sold out] - 5g in 80ml zhuni pot

These tightly compressed sheng tuos must have gone through some accelerated Guangdong express composting in those few years - there's not much green left anywhere. I've been keeping one of them carefully loosened up in a caddy for the last two months and it has changed quite a bit in there. There's some ever so slight, rather complementing sourness and not much left of the storage flavors I remember from my first session with this tea and as usual my trusty little zhuni pot does a great job on the texture. Smooth drinking with lubricating mouthfeel and nice, long aftertaste; nothing overly complex going on but nothing harsh either. A simple, pleasant tea, easy on the tummy - a welcome break from all those younger, wilder shengs I've had lately. I like this more than most aged 7542s I've had (YMMV) and I'm glad my first impression didn't prevent me from getting a couple more of these tuos.
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Re: Official Pu of the day

by Rui » Sep 5th, '16, 05:04

kuánglóng wrote:
Rui wrote:
Yes it is a very yummy tea and I also use water temperature around 90 degrees C while the 2016 version I steep it at the even lower temperature of 80 degress C for exactly the same reason.
Nice to hear about that, Rui; I haven't tried the 2016 version though. Have you tried any of this stuff by chance ?

2012 Yin Hao tuo cha [greenteaguru - sold out] - 5g in 80ml zhuni pot

These tightly compressed sheng tuos must have gone through some accelerated Guangdong express composting in those few years - there's not much green left anywhere. I've been keeping one of them carefully loosened up in a caddy for the last two months and it has changed quite a bit in there. There's some ever so slight, rather complementing sourness and not much left of the storage flavors I remember from my first session with this tea and as usual my trusty little zhuni pot does a great job on the texture. Smooth drinking with lubricating mouthfeel and nice, long aftertaste; nothing overly complex going on but nothing harsh either. A simple, pleasant tea, easy on the tummy - a welcome break from all those younger, wilder shengs I've had lately. I like this more than most aged 7542s I've had (YMMV) and I'm glad my first impression didn't prevent me from getting a couple more of these tuos.
Unfortunately not. Very seldom I get two's but maybe I should have got this one by the sounds of it.

As to 7542's when you have a chance get yourself a sample of GTG's traditionally stored 2005 Menghai 7542. It is good with very little wet storage characteristics except that it is now pretty well matured.

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