Antique Yixing Caddy w/1914 Puerh

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Antique Yixing Caddy w/1914 Puerh

by Tead Off » Sep 7th, '14, 03:22

Here are some pics showing a dated tea caddy with 250g of 1914 Puerh. It sold at auction for US$17K + premium.
Tea Caddy, Heart Sutra $17K.jpg
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Re: Antique Yixing Caddy w/1914 Puerh

by Tead Off » Sep 7th, '14, 03:24

Here is the label affixed to one side of the caddy.
Jin Long Xiang Ji seal.jpg
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The photo of the Puerh was not good enough to tell much.

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Re: Antique Yixing Caddy w/1914 Puerh

by drinking_teas » Sep 7th, '14, 18:00

$17k doesn't sound THAT bad... a cake of some 1970's pu'erh goes for that much. it does depend on all of the variables though

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Re: Antique Yixing Caddy w/1914 Puerh

by BW85 » Sep 7th, '14, 20:06

drinking_teas wrote:$17k doesn't sound THAT bad... a cake of some 1970's pu'erh goes for that much. it does depend on all of the variables though
That's what I was thinking. 17k is less than some cakes half the age. But those cakes have wrappers and it's known what they are, where as this is more like mystery puerh? In a way, this seems like a bargain! For the wealthy at least :lol:

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Re: Antique Yixing Caddy w/1914 Puerh

by drinking_teas » Sep 7th, '14, 20:13

BW85 wrote:
drinking_teas wrote:$17k doesn't sound THAT bad... a cake of some 1970's pu'erh goes for that much. it does depend on all of the variables though
That's what I was thinking. 17k is less than some cakes half the age. But those cakes have wrappers and it's known what they are, where as this is more like mystery puerh? In a way, this seems like a bargain! For the wealthy at least :lol:
who cares about wrappers? you get a cool caddy with this one.

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Re: Antique Yixing Caddy w/1914 Puerh

by BW85 » Sep 7th, '14, 20:51

drinking_teas wrote:
BW85 wrote:
drinking_teas wrote:$17k doesn't sound THAT bad... a cake of some 1970's pu'erh goes for that much. it does depend on all of the variables though
That's what I was thinking. 17k is less than some cakes half the age. But those cakes have wrappers and it's known what they are, where as this is more like mystery puerh? In a way, this seems like a bargain! For the wealthy at least :lol:
who cares about wrappers? you get a cool caddy with this one.
Exactly. I was just saying wrappers and known origin will increase the monetary value of a tea. Hence this is a bargain

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Re: Antique Yixing Caddy w/1914 Puerh

by TomVerlain » Sep 7th, '14, 21:40

Very cool - the canister is really nice, high lust factor for that. Having 100 year old tea in there is just so much more cool. Seems low price for the whole package considering how much other antique tea and caddys go for.

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Re: Antique Yixing Caddy w/1914 Puerh

by Tead Off » Sep 7th, '14, 23:29

BW85 wrote:
drinking_teas wrote:$17k doesn't sound THAT bad... a cake of some 1970's pu'erh goes for that much. it does depend on all of the variables though
That's what I was thinking. 17k is less than some cakes half the age. But those cakes have wrappers and it's known what they are, where as this is more like mystery puerh? In a way, this seems like a bargain! For the wealthy at least :lol:
I believe the wrapper tells you the producer of the tea. A search can be done on what that tea actually is. And, as someone else mentioned, you get a very cool caddy. The top of it is formed like a woven bamboo basket. Very fine and rare.

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Re: Antique Yixing Caddy w/1914 Puerh

by Evan Draper » Sep 8th, '14, 13:26

I agree with those who say the price seems too low. Perhaps this is not what it purports to be, but rather a counterfeit that is old or masterful enough to be valuable enough on its own merits? Of course, to repurpose kyarazen's maxim:
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Re: Antique Yixing Caddy w/1914 Puerh

by mr mopu » Sep 8th, '14, 21:12

Tead Off wrote:Here is the label affixed to one side of the caddy.
Jin Long Xiang Ji seal.jpg
The photo of the Puerh was not good enough to tell much.
That label says "Be sure to send a sample of this to mrmopu"..... at least that's my translation of it. :D

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Re: Antique Yixing Caddy w/1914 Puerh

by kyarazen » Sep 9th, '14, 00:45

Tead Off wrote: I believe the wrapper tells you the producer of the tea. A search can be done on what that tea actually is. And, as someone else mentioned, you get a very cool caddy. The top of it is formed like a woven bamboo basket. Very fine and rare.
a search turns up not so much information on the tea merchant, any more information is appreciated.

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=37573922594&ns=1
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=201 ... 7595712425
http://xinzhou.ganji.com/shoucangpin/864170950x.htm
http://www.7788puer.com/s500/22992343/

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Re: Antique Yixing Caddy w/1914 Puerh

by kyarazen » Sep 9th, '14, 00:47

Evan Draper wrote:I agree with those who say the price seems too low. Perhaps this is not what it purports to be, but rather a counterfeit that is old or masterful enough to be valuable enough on its own merits? Of course, to repurpose kyarazen's maxim:
收藏家之心,非收藏家也摸不透,是收藏家也非了解 !!!
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dont quote me!! that is just my current experience with people when it comes to tea/pot collecting.

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Re: Antique Yixing Caddy w/1914 Puerh

by Tead Off » Sep 9th, '14, 03:04

All we can do is speculate on the tea. But, the caddy remains a lovely piece, with a Guanyin figure and Heart Sutra incised into it. This sold in the USA, btw, not China.

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Re: Antique Yixing Caddy w/1914 Puerh

by Tead Off » Sep 9th, '14, 03:16

Here are the other 2 with interesting treatments of the body and lids.
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Re: Antique Yixing Caddy w/1914 Puerh

by kyarazen » Sep 9th, '14, 23:34

Tead Off wrote:All we can do is speculate on the tea. But, the caddy remains a lovely piece, with a Guanyin figure and Heart Sutra incised into it. This sold in the USA, btw, not China.
any idea on the age of the caddy or should it be around the said date of the tea?

it is interesting that the caddy retains the traditional "zong pai" vertical writing style, but instead has chosen to go from left to right.

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