Daily drinker raw cake

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Daily drinker raw cake

by Xeractha » Mar 7th 17 1:02 pm

Hi!

I want to buy the 2005 Lao Thong Zhi Yellow next week and was thinking about getting a raw cake too. I don't want to buy samples now because I have a desire to own a sheng cake and I must satisfy it else I will feel this itch forever.
The price where I drew the line is around 30-35 USD without shipping which is around 12,5 USD on YS and less or more elsewhere. If I'm in the wrong price range for a not so special pu-erh for daily drinking then just tell me.

A cake that seems to be worthy is the 2005 Haiwan Spring Tea >> http://pu-erhtea.com/TeaDetails.aspx?TeaID=214 (from Awazon)
and this 2007 Bo Nan Mountain Yun Wu Yuan http://yunnansourcing.com/en/otherfacto ... -cake.html

I'm also looking at those 2015-16 YS cakes with the ninja looking Wukong wrappers. Most of the YS teas are young so I don't know if it's okay to get a whole cake for daily drinking.
Actaully as long as it's not overly smokey and doesn't taste like pine it's okay for me. For some reason pine tasting tea reminds me of poison. Well, maybe because pine needles contain phenol and it's toxic. Who knows.

This doesn't look bad to me either: http://yunnansourcing.com/en/rawpu-erh/ ... -cake.html

Anyone tried some of these before?

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Re: Daily drinker raw cake

by CheekyChipmunk » Mar 7th 17 5:24 pm

Xeractha wrote:
Anyone tried some of these before?
Hi There,

I can't say I've tried any of the specific teas youhave linked above. However, I own some of the Wu Kong-wrappered tea you mention (albeit the more expensive offerings). I do also have the 2013 version of the Wu Liang Ye Sheng (purple/wild tea). Purple/wild teas tend to have more of the smoky elements in their flavour profile, although the one you have highlighted has a well balanced smokiness to my taste (the '13 that is). If you don't like the pine flavour then I might suggest you go for more aged tea as you have opined above. In terms of value, might I suggest:

http://yunnansourcing.com/en/nan-jian-t ... h-tea.html

It has some smoky elements which again are not overpowering, but for the price point you could definitely do a lot worse. Strictly speaking, it's not a 'bing' (cake) but it has about 2/3 the volume of a standard cake so will keep you going for a while.

The Yunnan Sourcing 'impression' cakes might also be up your ally as they are blended to be suitable for drinking now or into the future (and well within your budget). Go ahead and buy a cake or two with the wukong wrapper if you're drawn to them and forget about them for a few years and I'm sure they will be thoroughly enjoyed at a later stage.

Hope this helps!

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Re: Daily drinker raw cake

by mr mopu » Mar 8th 17 1:32 am

Xeractha wrote: Hi!

I want to buy the 2005 Lao Thong Zhi Yellow next week and was thinking about getting a raw cake too. I don't want to buy samples now because I have a desire to own a sheng cake and I must satisfy it else I will feel this itch forever.
The price where I drew the line is around 30-35 USD without shipping which is around 12,5 USD on YS and less or more elsewhere. If I'm in the wrong price range for a not so special pu-erh for daily drinking then just tell me.

A cake that seems to be worthy is the 2005 Haiwan Spring Tea >> http://pu-erhtea.com/TeaDetails.aspx?TeaID=214 (from Awazon)
and this 2007 Bo Nan Mountain Yun Wu Yuan http://yunnansourcing.com/en/otherfacto ... -cake.html

I'm also looking at those 2015-16 YS cakes with the ninja looking Wukong wrappers. Most of the YS teas are young so I don't know if it's okay to get a whole cake for daily drinking.
Actaully as long as it's not overly smokey and doesn't taste like pine it's okay for me. For some reason pine tasting tea reminds me of poison. Well, maybe because pine needles contain phenol and it's toxic. Who knows.

This doesn't look bad to me either: http://yunnansourcing.com/en/rawpu-erh/ ... -cake.html

Anyone tried some of these before?
For $30.00 this one rings well above its price point from YS .http://yunnansourcing.com/en/2015/3601- ... h-tea.html. A few have reviewed it here.
https://steepster.com/teas/hai-lang-hao ... n-chen-yun

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Re: Daily drinker raw cake

by gatmcm » Mar 8th 17 3:11 am

Nice to see this topic, I was looking for a daily drinker as well, I'm thinking of ordering from pu-erh.sk, want to sample a few of their teas but I could use a full affordable cake to drink regularly, ideally with some age, found these:

http://pu-erh.sk/shop/index.php?route=p ... uct_id=402
http://pu-erh.sk/shop/index.php?route=p ... uct_id=581
http://pu-erh.sk/shop/index.php?route=p ... uct_id=572

Any opinions/input/advice is welcome! I'm leaning towards the 2002 one but I'm not too well versed in aged tea, reading about it only gets you so far...

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Re: Daily drinker raw cake

by CheekyChipmunk » Mar 8th 17 7:32 am

gatmcm wrote: reading about it only gets you so far...
Couldn't agree with you more. Go with your instincts and treat it all as a journey. There is no good and bad tea, just tea! The only way to know what you like (which is more important than the opinion of others) is to taste a bunch of different tea and start refining your own tastes. Dive in head first and don't look back!

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Re: Daily drinker raw cake

by kuánglóng » Mar 8th 17 9:15 am

mr mopu wrote:
Xeractha wrote: Hi!

I want to buy the 2005 Lao Thong Zhi Yellow next week and was thinking about getting a raw cake too. I don't want to buy samples now because I have a desire to own a sheng cake and I must satisfy it else I will feel this itch forever.
The price where I drew the line is around 30-35 USD without shipping which is around 12,5 USD on YS and less or more elsewhere. If I'm in the wrong price range for a not so special pu-erh for daily drinking then just tell me.

A cake that seems to be worthy is the 2005 Haiwan Spring Tea >> http://pu-erhtea.com/TeaDetails.aspx?TeaID=214 (from Awazon)
and this 2007 Bo Nan Mountain Yun Wu Yuan http://yunnansourcing.com/en/otherfacto ... -cake.html

I'm also looking at those 2015-16 YS cakes with the ninja looking Wukong wrappers. Most of the YS teas are young so I don't know if it's okay to get a whole cake for daily drinking.
Actaully as long as it's not overly smokey and doesn't taste like pine it's okay for me. For some reason pine tasting tea reminds me of poison. Well, maybe because pine needles contain phenol and it's toxic. Who knows.

This doesn't look bad to me either: http://yunnansourcing.com/en/rawpu-erh/ ... -cake.html

Anyone tried some of these before?
For $30.00 this one rings well above its price point from YS .http://yunnansourcing.com/en/2015/3601- ... h-tea.html. A few have reviewed it here.
https://steepster.com/teas/hai-lang-hao ... n-chen-yun
Seconded. I have 5 of those cakes in storage and this stuff just keeps changing and changing. Pretty amazing, especially for the money.
For the fans of Xiaguan tuos, especially the 2012 Te Ji FT#6 this one is an interesting alternative with a similar taste profile, less smokiness but beautiful, calming qi and equally hard to beat price wise:
http://yunnansourcing.com/en/nan-jian-t ... grams.html
Another raw sheng that easily beats much more expensive teas IMO is the 2013 Mengku Spring Tips but unfortunately Scott ran out of stock.
Yet another decent, affordable sheng would be the 2013 Ai Lao, unfortunately the price went up to $39 a while ago.

Regarding Scott's newer offerings the OP asked about, I have ordered some of those cakes:
http://yunnansourcing.com/en/rawpu-erh/ ... -cake.html
Can't wait to try them out but I'll give them a couple days to acclimatize.
(Just in case ... I've ordered most of those cakes from Oli - greenteaguru.co.uk)

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Re: Daily drinker raw cake

by Xeractha » Mar 8th 17 2:42 pm

@CheekyChipmunk: That mushroom doesn't look bad. I might get it regardless of buying a cake.

I like that Hai Lang, I wanted to try a YiWu thus I could beat 2 flies with one slap (okay this sounds better in hungarian :D). Greenteaguru is actually cheaper for me, shipping is only 5 GBP and delivery time is significantly lower. I don't think I'd choose the Nan Jian cake if it's similar to Xiaguan. I just ordered a 2006 Te Ji last week from Berylleb.
If there's a sale till next week then I might pick up the Ai Lao.

I didn't know prices could go up so fast. Last year I bought the 2006 Te Ji for 9 USD I think, now it's around 15. The 2012 Menghai Hong Yun mini cake was less than 9 USD not long ago, now it doubled its price. Tea seems to be a good investment, except for me 'cause I drink everything. I drank the 2016 Nan Zhao too which should have been left to age. :D

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Re: Daily drinker raw cake

by gatmcm » Mar 8th 17 2:55 pm

Xeractha wrote: beat 2 flies with one slap
'Two birds with one stone' in english
'Dois coelhos de uma cajadada só' in portuguese (meaning two rabits in one swing)
I'm curious, how does is sound in hungarian?

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Re: Daily drinker raw cake

by jayinhk » Mar 8th 17 3:01 pm

gatmcm wrote:
Xeractha wrote: beat 2 flies with one slap
'Two birds with one stone' in english
'Dois coelhos de uma cajadada só' in portuguese (meaning two rabits in one swing)
I'm curious, how does is sound in hungarian?
"Kill two birds with one stone" in English actually

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Re: Daily drinker raw cake

by Xeractha » Mar 8th 17 3:06 pm

gatmcm wrote:
Xeractha wrote: beat 2 flies with one slap
'Two birds with one stone' in english
'Dois coelhos de uma cajadada só' in portuguese (meaning two rabits in one swing)
I'm curious, how does is sound in hungarian?
Two birds, yeah I forgot that one. "Két legyet egy csapásra" in hungarian. With rabits, it's not good. :D

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Re: Daily drinker raw cake

by gatmcm » Mar 8th 17 3:26 pm

jayinhk wrote:
"Kill two birds with one stone" in English actually
You're right, its the same in portuguese actually 'matar dois coelhos de uma cajadada só' but the killing part is often just implied and not actually spoken/written

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Re: Daily drinker raw cake

by onjinone » Mar 8th 17 5:17 pm

Xeractha wrote: @CheekyChipmunk: That mushroom doesn't look bad. I might get it regardless of buying a cake.

I like that Hai Lang, I wanted to try a YiWu thus I could beat 2 flies with one slap (okay this sounds better in hungarian :D). Greenteaguru is actually cheaper for me, shipping is only 5 GBP and delivery time is significantly lower. I don't think I'd choose the Nan Jian cake if it's similar to Xiaguan. I just ordered a 2006 Te Ji last week from Berylleb.
If there's a sale till next week then I might pick up the Ai Lao.

I didn't know prices could go up so fast. Last year I bought the 2006 Te Ji for 9 USD I think, now it's around 15. The 2012 Menghai Hong Yun mini cake was less than 9 USD not long ago, now it doubled its price. Tea seems to be a good investment, except for me 'cause I drink everything. I drank the 2016 Nan Zhao too which should have been left to age. :D
I like that 2 flies with 1 slap sounds cooler than 2 birds with 1 stone :lol:

But yeah the prices tend to fluctuate a bit more these days but overall prices tend to increase a bit on whatever's popular.

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Re: Daily drinker raw cake

by Rui » Mar 9th 17 8:03 am

gatmcm wrote:
jayinhk wrote:
"Kill two birds with one stone" in English actually
You're right, its the same in portuguese actually 'matar dois coelhos de uma cajadada só' but the killing part is often just implied and not actually spoken/written
I agree. That sentence sends me back to almost forgotten memory lane.

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Re: Daily drinker raw cake

by jayinhk » Mar 9th 17 10:53 am

gatmcm wrote:
jayinhk wrote:
"Kill two birds with one stone" in English actually
You're right, its the same in portuguese actually 'matar dois coelhos de uma cajadada só' but the killing part is often just implied and not actually spoken/written
Yeah, kinda the same in English too :)

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Re: Daily drinker raw cake

by gatmcm » Mar 9th 17 12:06 pm

Rui wrote: That sentence sends me back to almost forgotten memory lane.
I was wondering about your name, portuguese parents/grandparents?