Royal Tea Garden ebay, anyone used before

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Royal Tea Garden ebay, anyone used before

by Jeremy » Jan 6th, '09, 01:12

Has anyone ever ordered from this guy?

http://stores.ebay.com/Royal-Tea-Garden ... idZ2QQtZkm

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by Drax » Jan 6th, '09, 05:40

Yes and technically no.

Rather than type it all out, check out this thread.

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by Salsero » Jan 6th, '09, 11:47

That also seems like a strangely generic name for that cake. And what's with the statement, "They were officially established in 1941 but have been in business for over a thousand years."?

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by thanks » Jan 6th, '09, 12:04



They definitely have in the past, I'm just not sure what year they stopped.

Also, I think they've only been around since 1941, but I could be mistaken.

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by hop_goblin » Jan 6th, '09, 12:17



Yes, XiaGuan has used a Zhong Wrapper. Its the correct wrapper for a XiaGuan as well.

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by Jeremy » Jan 6th, '09, 15:59



On some of there tuochas for sure.

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by Salsero » Jan 6th, '09, 16:33

So who does this stupid zhong cha logo belong to and what does it mean? It's CNNP, Xiaguan, and bunches of tiny factories who don't spring for their own wrappers and are the opposite of the enormous CNNP and Xiaguan.

And of course CNNP also means the Kunming Tea Factory, but it used to mean other factories too and it still might if they contract a job out to someone else.

Urgh, I guess this is just the modern Chinese business world ... chaos!

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by puerhking » Jan 6th, '09, 16:51

I thought that might be the case but didn't know. Xiaguan was spun off from CNNP correct?

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by wyardley » Jan 6th, '09, 16:55

Salsero wrote:So who does this stupid zhong cha logo belong to and what does it mean? It's CNNP, Xiaguan, and bunches of tiny factories who don't spring for their own wrappers and are the opposite of the enormous CNNP and Xiaguan.


I don't know, but I would assume any factories that were under CNNP control before privatization (i.e., Menghai, Xiaguan, Kunming, etc.) would be able to use the 8中 logo legally. And it seems clear that other organizations currently use the logo as well (probably without "official" approval).

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by heavydoom » Jan 6th, '09, 19:38

why out of so many online vendors do you want to deal with this guy? he has barely any stock in terms of tea wares and teas? is it the flat fee shipping that is compelling you?

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by hobbesoxon » Jan 7th, '09, 03:32

I just bought a Menghai cake from this vendor, and it turned up almost entirely destroyed. It was beaten within an inch of its life. Be careful!

The "packaging" process comprised the following steps:

i. slip bing into big plastic zip-lock bag
ii. slip plastic bag into padded envelope
iii. cross fingers, hope that China Post are feeling sympathetic


Toodlepip,

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by Jeremy » Jan 7th, '09, 11:26

heavydoom wrote:why out of so many online vendors do you want to deal with this guy? he has barely any stock in terms of tea wares and teas? is it the flat fee shipping that is compelling you?


He has the 01 xiaguan cang er toucha. The only other vendor that I could find it was Hou De.

I was just curious, I dont have the kind of money to haphazzardly order from unproven vendors.

Thanks for the info.

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by hop_goblin » Jan 7th, '09, 13:30

wyardley wrote:
Salsero wrote:So who does this stupid zhong cha logo belong to and what does it mean? It's CNNP, Xiaguan, and bunches of tiny factories who don't spring for their own wrappers and are the opposite of the enormous CNNP and Xiaguan.


I don't know, but I would assume any factories that were under CNNP control before privatization (i.e., Menghai, Xiaguan, Kunming, etc.) would be able to use the 8中 logo legally. And it seems clear that other organizations currently use the logo as well (probably without "official" approval).


Before '97 all puerh production was supervised and regulated under the CNNP as all factories were still considered state owned. As a result of China's socilalistic business affairs, all state owned factories had a uniform way of producing puerh regardless of factory and this means wrapping which includes the zhong cha logo. Although the Zhong logo is still used today, it is primarly used for nostalgic reasons than any regulatory decree.

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