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by tacobell » Jun 13th, '09, 10:35

Take a look at this unit. I think it may work inside a closet. The acrylic is inert and as humidors go it won't break my piggy bank. I am just concerned that in Colorado, with the humidity level just above the sun's, I'll be dead before my little brood of Pu enters adolescence.

http://shop.humidors4u.com/products/hum ... co-humidor

So what do you guys think?

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by hop_goblin » Jun 13th, '09, 10:37

Hey, that might work if you have a smaller collection.

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by brandon » Jun 13th, '09, 10:46

A dedicated glass pumidor for your collection of Tuo Cha?
Neat.

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by xuancheng » Jun 13th, '09, 11:15

It looks like it is divided up into 9 compartments that are about 5" x 10" x 8" each. Can you fit a tea cake into something like this? It would be a pretty nice display cabinet.

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by tacobell » Jun 13th, '09, 11:47

xuancheng wrote:It looks like it is divided up into 9 compartments that are about 5" x 10" x 8" each. Can you fit a tea cake into something like this? It would be a pretty nice display cabinet.
Hmmm....nice pick-up. 5" would be pushing it. I do not want it as a display cabinet. Would actually keep it inside my closet. Just like the idea of a controlled environment

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by tony shlongini » Jun 13th, '09, 14:14

That looks very nice, and keeping it in a closet would obviate one of it's obvious problems. It's transparent, so you'd want to keep the whole shebang in a dark place.

Will those bin be wide enough to hold a bing, either horizontally or vertically? Some quick math tells me it may not. :shock:

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by tony shlongini » Jun 13th, '09, 14:15

Oh, and I wouldn't worry about the lack of a fan.

You know damned well that you're going to open that puppy every single day to behold your stash. :lol:

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by Seeker » Jun 14th, '09, 00:52

What a cool idea!!!
With humidity an average of 40%, it would be great to have something like this so my babies will age!!
Big downside - the compartments will be too small.
At 14" wide, divided into 3 compartments (not knowing how much to allow for the thickness of the acrylic panels x3) that's somewhere less then 4.6" wide per bin.
Oh, but if you stack the bings on end, then it's 24" divided by 3 - somewhere less than 8".
Hmmm - just took out 4 bings randomly and measured diam - 7.5-8".
Would be frustrating to spend the $, only to have it arrive and the bings don't fit.
But still - what a great idea.

Has anyone taken measures to humidify their bing environs - and if so, have you had to deal with mold and/or mildew? I haven't done anything with humidity for fear of this problem. Could potentially ruin a large investment.
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Gosh this is tempting though!
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by Seeker » Jun 14th, '09, 00:58

Another thought - when fine dining, I have often brought Pu-erh for after dinner.
So, I looked for a nice caddy for my tea that would fit nicely into my interior jacket pocket. Found the perfect caddy - a stainless steel/leather-bound cigarette box.
Sadly when it arrived it reaked of tobacco - there weren't ever any cigarettes in it, but being sold by a tobacco related company, it had been stored with lots of tobacco products and acquired the odor.
2 years it took for the odor to face away to nothing (due to the leather, I was concerned about various ways of trying to cleanse the odor away - so I just opened it and left it out on a shelf; only recently did I check it and find it odor free; finally I can use it).
The point being, it would be good to check if this item is stored near tobacco products, or, heaven forbid, has been returned after a purchaser sent it back (after of course keeping cigars in it until discovering he/she didn't like it).

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by Seeker » Jun 14th, '09, 16:18

Yet another thought:
I've been really thinking about this humidor idea.
What about heat?
Pu needs humidity AND heat - consistent I think.
Small space heater? Seems potentially dangerous in the closet with that humidor.
Hmmm, then with heat, does humidity become that much more likely to invite
mold &/or mildew?
I've been wondering about this for awhile now - ever since (about a year ago) I
learned that Pu doesn't age without heat and humidity. Although with air circulation, they will lose qualities - very different than aging.

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by MarshalN » Jun 14th, '09, 23:10

I really would caution against using heat -- you're playing with lots of variables if you do, and the chances of screwing up is far, far higher than just leaving them to their own devices.

Simple is best.

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by tacobell » Jun 14th, '09, 23:13

Well I am going to take the plunge. I spoke to the owner of the store, Kevin, and he thinks that I will be able to remove the partitions without much difficulty.

I will report on my efforts, pictures included. The nice thing is that Kevin has offered us a discount. If we put tea box in the discount code area...he will take 15% off the price. I negotiated that just for you guys :D

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by Seeker » Jun 14th, '09, 23:24

Wow Taco - super cool! 8)

Regarding heat - Yeah - too risky.

However, I am assured by several chinese pu experts that sans a fairly consistent heat & humidity - pu's will not age.

When I found this out, and I pressed the point, I was supremely bummed-- realizing that all the pu I had would not age.

There is a lot of misinformation out there, some of it subtle, sort of suggesting that you can age it. Well unless you have consistent humidity of at least 70, and heat at least 90 - no aging. :cry:

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by pb2q » Jun 15th, '09, 02:02

Seeker wrote:There is a lot of misinformation out there, some of it subtle, sort of suggesting that you can age it. Well unless you have consistent humidity of at least 70, and heat at least 90 - no aging.
That jury will be out for us for some time.

I prefer to think in terms of average relative humidity. Consistent is misleading: I think that even if a minimum average humidity is required, the tea can suffer periods of low humidity and lower temps. Some puerh minds have suggested that the tea will benefit from regular 'rests' with lower humidity. Sorry no references to cite, look around. This has been discussed quite a bit already in this forum.

I'm not suggesting that higher heat/humidity isn't useful and won't accelerate some part of the process: I've had the opportunity to try a variety of puerhs, ages, including different storage conditions. Like many here, I don't mind a little shicang.

According to the weather websites, my average relative humidity is roughly 68%. I also use a hygrometer near my storage area but don't keep records. I don't have A/C in my home, and the indoor humidity drops significantly in the winter because of the furnace. I know that 4-5 months of the year here can seem very humid to me. I haven't considered using a humidor.

Cha Dao ran this series of articles: Perspectives on Storing and Aging Pu'er Teas (this is the last article which links to the previous ones). A handful of tea minds weighed in, and the result is a variety of useful opinions, anecdotal experience, and some empirical knowledge. Some of the contributors are also posters here. This is required reading.

The tea will age regardless, but not necessarily for the better.

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