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Re: Fushoushan High Mountain (2600m) Oolong Group Buy - Interest Check

by Tead Off » Aug 9th, '16, 10:38

jayinhk wrote:
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jayinhk wrote:Heat is heat, but wood imparts a little flavor. Temperature is the most important factor, followed by length of roast, but temperature is by far the most important factor. Obviously they wanna make it sound like roasting is something hard to do, but roasting tea is much simpler than roasting coffee. Try it and see.
It also imparts its qi, a quality that is sought after by connoisseurs. Roasting IS hard to do. There is a lot of junk in the market.
Qi from roasting is debatable (I don't believe it), but I don't disagree that there's a lot of junk on the market. That's more to do with poor quality base material than roast, IMO. Seriously, try roasting some old Thai green oolong at different temperatures and then letting it rest. I think it would be a very interesting experiment :)
I've done this many times. I don't bother to buy Thai oolongs when I can get superior Taiwanese products. I don't mean to sound snobbish, but Thai oolongs cannot stand up to good Taiwan oolongs.

As for qi, it's a subject I rarely bring up as there are too many interpretations, so let's leave it at that. But taste is a different matter. IMO, charcoal roasting over fire is far superior to electronic roasting. The difference in taste is palpable. Electronic roasting is okay for refreshing a tea, but to roast a Wuyi or gaoshan electronically will not be close in flavor to a good charcoal roasted product. Heat is not heat. They are not all equal. Even gas would be preferable to electricity. You can taste differences in water and food that are heated by different sources. It's not the imagination. Of course, if you don't care or not able discern the difference, it doesn't matter. But your statements just don't ring true to this ear, or mouth. :D

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Re: Fushoushan High Mountain (2600m) Oolong Group Buy - Interest Check

by jayinhk » Aug 9th, '16, 12:39

Let's agree to disagree then. ;) I believe in a fair bit of esoteric stuff, but qi from charcoal/gas isn't one of them if the temperatures are identical.

Also I only suggested Thai oolong for testing purposes. I don't usually drink Thai oolongs either, when Fujian and Taiwan are 90 minutes away!

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Re: Fushoushan High Mountain (2600m) Oolong Group Buy - Interest Check

by victoria3 » Oct 3rd, '16, 21:54

Today I finally had a chance to try Chen's Medium Roasted DongDing and really really enjoyed it. Very expansive and fresh almost roasted peppermint like aroma and flavours. I love it. It is perfectly roasted. I tend to prefer bolder flavours and so after trying Kyarazen recommended parameters I settled on using slightly more leaf and time; 7gr/100ml/off boil/50sec.
Used my lidded Imari Edo Bowl in a tea-boat to keep bowl hot. For comparison, next time I'll use one of my new yixing pots from Ferg.
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Re: Fushoushan High Mountain (2600m) Oolong Group Buy - Interest Check

by victoria3 » Oct 3rd, '16, 22:05

I am still exploring Lishan and FuShoushan steeping parameters. With both I began using Kyarazen recommended steeping parameters and found the flavours were too light for my Argentine taste, so am trying more time and or more leaf. I think using a larger lidded bowl is probably the way to go.
Here is Lishan steeped at 6gr/110/off boil/90sec. It was sweet and buttery with a nice lingering palate but still very light in flavour.
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Re: Fushoushan High Mountain (2600m) Oolong Group Buy - Interest Check

by kyarazen » Nov 9th, '16, 12:01

bah.. been travelling for quite a while and hadnt been updating on the status of things.

but just a heads up the winter FSS have now been received at Chen Hau Ying's location in Taichung
all the participants of the Mass Order may be in for some delight.. but still that is subjective :D
preliminary assessment, this year's winter FSS is way above par in comparison to last years winter FSS, and a different profile as compared to the Spring FSS. same location, same plantation, same bushes, but just a different season and the taste contrast is on different spectrums~

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Re: Fushoushan High Mountain (2600m) Oolong Group Buy - Interest Check

by victoria3 » Nov 9th, '16, 17:42

I placed a fairly large order of Chen's various roasted oolongs per your suggestion Kyarazen, plus a few others. The whole process was super easy via Messenger of his Facebook page and has already shipped! Thanks again for the intro. Today, I began the day with comfort tea, Chen's DongDing after last nights train wreck here in USA.

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Re: Fushoushan High Mountain (2600m) Oolong Group Buy - Interest Check

by gasninja » Nov 30th, '16, 08:31

I received my order yesterday. I immediately through a couple balls in a big coffee mug gramma style at work. WOW ! I need to order more of this tea to age. I wanted to try the Fu Shou Shan This AM but one look at the tin of DD and I had to try it in a yixing. I am not regretting it. Thanks Kyarazen for putting the group order together.

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Re: Fushoushan High Mountain (2600m) Oolong Group Buy - Interest Check

by kyarazen » Mar 9th, '17, 11:01

hello all, i have received enquiries whether i'll be coordinating a group by again this year....

and the answer is... nope.. because i'm too busy :P

but if you guys are interested, feel free to contact chen (hauying chen) on facebook or anywhere, or anyone else you know in taiwan, be it a tea vendor, merchant, farmer, troll or friend to help you source.

i heard there's a 10% price hike this year.

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Re: Fushoushan High Mountain (2600m) Oolong Group Buy - Interest Check

by Bok » Mar 10th, '17, 00:14

kyarazen wrote: i heard there's a 10% price hike this year.
Makes sense, more and more of the DYL farms are getting dissolved and the weather is erratic as well, which will probably make the yield smaller. Hopefully the Chinese stay focused on their mainland teas and won’t drive up the prices for Taiwanese teas…

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Re: Fushoushan High Mountain (2600m) Oolong Group Buy - Interest Check

by ethan » Mar 10th, '17, 02:49

kyarazen wrote: feel free to contact chen (hauying chen) on facebook or anywhere, or anyone else you know in taiwan, be it a tea vendor, merchant, farmer, troll or friend to help you source.

i heard there's a 10% price hike this year.
2600-meter tea @ US$.60 per gram price-- Could a "troll" can handle such heights?

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