Well, that's exactly surviving percentage of Zhu Sha ni(type of Zhuni).britt wrote:Japanese Bizen artisans should be so lucky! A Japanese vendor told me that typically 3 out of 10 items survive the kiln, and it is very rare that any two of these look the same.MarshalN wrote:All Yixing artisans make their pots in sets of three -- you never fire one, but you fire three of the same kind. It's just how work is done (mostly because if you fire one and it's damaged during firing, you end up with none). So technically, they should be at least three of a kind, not one of a kind.
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I'm sure that 5000 Friends has some good pots, but most of them seem to have been rubbed down with shoe polish to artificially age them. I tend to stay away from them on principal, though it doesn't look like they hike up their prices.
I got my small 60ml(?) from Chinese Teapot Gallery (the small one on the right):
The one on the top left is a big one that's of exceptional quality. It was claimed to be a "master" quality, and while I don't really know whether it is or not it really is the best made pot I've ever seen. The picture doesn't really capture the incredible surface of the clay - very dense/tight, smooth, and as shinier than I've seen in a new pot elsewhere. I don't often use it because of it's size, but it's still one of my favorites.
I got my small 60ml(?) from Chinese Teapot Gallery (the small one on the right):
The one on the top left is a big one that's of exceptional quality. It was claimed to be a "master" quality, and while I don't really know whether it is or not it really is the best made pot I've ever seen. The picture doesn't really capture the incredible surface of the clay - very dense/tight, smooth, and as shinier than I've seen in a new pot elsewhere. I don't often use it because of it's size, but it's still one of my favorites.
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Can't that also be a quality of the tea that you're brewing? I thought I read that somewhere, but it's equally possible that I was reading about signs of brewing well; I don't quite recall, it's been a while since I read it.MarshalN wrote:Your point 2 has less to do with the pot's make than how you pour. I can make any pot pour with bubbles, or no bubbles. It's entirely dependent on the way you pour, and not on the pot itself. Dripping is another issue, but we're not talking about dripping. Unless you provide parameters for your bubble test....
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You can tell by the sheen of these pots that they are of lower quality. Oh don't ge me wrong, they will do the job, but will possibly not become seasoned or have that luster about them after years and in some cases months of using them. I believe that Zisha should almost never shine like this unless they are weathered or of course the infamous Zhuni. In fact, many of these types of pots are made of Taiwanese clay and or poor quality zisha with additives in them.tenuki wrote:I think this shelf is 100ml and under....
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Re: Yixing selection and hairline crack...
Yes, Take Marsaln's advice. Yixing will expand and contract according to temp of the water which will undoubtably make the crack bigger.Sleepydrakos01 wrote:I must admit, I still am very new to yixing and selecting. Since 3 of the same design are fired, each one is inturn unique. I was wondering if someone could help me.
My girlfriends teapot has a tiny hairline crack, most likely from the kiln. Today, she heard the crack get bigger. How can we save this teapot?
The crack is clear through the clay.
By the way, I know I am still not anywhere near knowledgeable about Yixing. I can spot some cheap ones but authenticating is another issue all together.
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SEEM. The key word. Have you purchased and PERSONALLY handled any of their pots? No, you haven't.ABx wrote:I'm sure that 5000 Friends has some good pots, but most of them seem to have been rubbed down with shoe polish to artificially age them.
I have several 5000friend pots and the clay used is good. It is not old zhu ni otherwise the prices would be really high. Still those pots are made of older clay, lower use of mixing various clays. I am very happy with the four pots I got from that vendor.
The reason I have bumped this old thread is to provide factual information to new users enquiring about various Yixing vendors and to put to an end to all rumours that 5000friend pots are either fake or been rubbed with shoe polish, which is just pure hearsay, no real facts. Yixing gossip.
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Please show us your pots from 5000 as examples?bagua7 wrote:SEEM. The key word. Have you purchased and PERSONALLY handled any of their pots? No, you haven't.ABx wrote:I'm sure that 5000 Friends has some good pots, but most of them seem to have been rubbed down with shoe polish to artificially age them.
I have several 5000friend pots and the clay used is good. It is not old zhu ni otherwise the prices would be really high. Still those pots are made of older clay, lower use of mixing various clays. I am very happy with the four pots I got from that vendor.
The reason I have bumped this old thread is to provide factual information to new users enquiring about various Yixing vendors and to put to an end to all rumours that 5000friend pots are either fake or been rubbed with shoe polish, which is just pure hearsay, no real facts. Yixing gossip.
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bagua7 wrote:SEEM. The key word. Have you purchased and PERSONALLY handled any of their pots? No, you haven't.ABx wrote:I'm sure that 5000 Friends has some good pots, but most of them seem to have been rubbed down with shoe polish to artificially age them.
I have several 5000friend pots and the clay used is good. It is not old zhu ni otherwise the prices would be really high. Still those pots are made of older clay, lower use of mixing various clays. I am very happy with the four pots I got from that vendor.
The reason I have bumped this old thread is to provide factual information to new users enquiring about various Yixing vendors and to put to an end to all rumours that 5000friend pots are either fake or been rubbed with shoe polish, which is just pure hearsay, no real facts. Yixing gossip.
Also I want you to keep in mind you revived a 4-5 year old thread. anyone who has watch 5000 fiend these past 4-5 years, knows that they have actually become more honest lately. About 5 years ago you could often find incredibly dubious age claims on their site, which was attempted to be backed up by pots that were quite visibly shoe polished, easily spotted by amateurs after they have seen a few good and bad examples.
I realized as I am responding to this I have not checked out their store for several months. Things today look a lot better than they did five years ago.
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+1AdamMY wrote:bagua7 wrote:SEEM. The key word. Have you purchased and PERSONALLY handled any of their pots? No, you haven't.ABx wrote:I'm sure that 5000 Friends has some good pots, but most of them seem to have been rubbed down with shoe polish to artificially age them.
I have several 5000friend pots and the clay used is good. It is not old zhu ni otherwise the prices would be really high. Still those pots are made of older clay, lower use of mixing various clays. I am very happy with the four pots I got from that vendor.
The reason I have bumped this old thread is to provide factual information to new users enquiring about various Yixing vendors and to put to an end to all rumours that 5000friend pots are either fake or been rubbed with shoe polish, which is just pure hearsay, no real facts. Yixing gossip.
Also I want you to keep in mind you revived a 4-5 year old thread. anyone who has watch 5000 fiend these past 4-5 years, knows that they have actually become more honest lately. About 5 years ago you could often find incredibly dubious age claims on their site, which was attempted to be backed up by pots that were quite visibly shoe polished, easily spotted by amateurs after they have seen a few good and bad examples.
I realized as I am responding to this I have not checked out their store for several months. Things today look a lot better than they did five years ago.