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Re: Official what GREEN are you currently drinking?

by Tead Off » Feb 6th, '17, 22:10

JRS22 wrote:
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davidglass wrote:I just received Hojo's gyokuro and am not having any luck. Hojo recommended I brew it at 5g/100ml/50C/2-3 min. The tea arrived 2 days ago so maybe it needs to recover? Hojo also said that he brews his tea with only 3g, I'm not getting it.
If it's the Asahina Gyokuro that I've mentioned, my suggestion is the following;

7g/60ml shiboridashi. 50°/2 min. Excellent!
52.5°/10sec, 2nd/3rd.
55°/20 sec, 4th.
60°/5th, 30 sec.
Good Umami, sweetness, and smoothness. The increase of leaves makes a difference.

Finding the right water to go with Japanese greens is essential to me. The difference between my filtered tap and bottled waters like Wildalp and Volvic are huge. Plus, some vessels just make better tea. I think this gyokuro was my #1 of 2016.
I tried brewing the Asahina this way today and it was the most intense gyokuro experience I've ever had. It definitely justified the use of all that leaf and I just hope I get some sleep tonight!
Ippodo used to recommend 10g! If the Gyokuro is of a good quality and processed well, it should remain smooth, and not get bitter. Umami should be present, giving you a broth-like experience. 7g will give you the power of the tea, for sure.

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Re: Official what GREEN are you currently drinking?

by JRS22 » Feb 7th, '17, 08:52

Tead Off wrote:Ippodo used to recommend 10g! If the Gyokuro is of a good quality and processed well, it should remain smooth, and not get bitter. Umami should be present, giving you a broth-like experience. 7g will give you the power of the tea, for sure.
Using this quantity of tea leaves transformed the experience of the Asahina. I have to try the same brewing parameters with another Gyokuro that I have at home. In the meantime I used a 15% off coupon to order more of the Gyokuro mechanically harvested Gyokuro from Thes du Japon. By comparison with the Asahina it's a daily Gyokuro.

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Re: Official what GREEN are you currently drinking?

by JRS22 » Feb 7th, '17, 12:49

O-Cha Gyokuro Kamejurushi brewed almost as intensely as the Asahina also benefited by brewing intensely. I always assumed that the flavor profile would be the same when brewed weakly and just less intense, but now I realize I'm wrong, at least for Gyokuro. Still getting excellent results with my Kim Eung Chuck biotite pot.
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Re: Official what GREEN are you currently drinking?

by ethan » Feb 11th, '17, 08:31

Nepali Ilam Tea from Himalayan Organic Tea Traders: John B. gave me this organic tea which surprised me w/ unique flavor, a sort of cooked, slightly burnt spinach. For me, vegetal flavor is usually too bitter, but this is not. Smooth & refreshing. I like it.

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Re: Official what GREEN are you currently drinking?

by PAQF » Feb 11th, '17, 14:08

JRS22 wrote:
Tead Off wrote:Ippodo used to recommend 10g! If the Gyokuro is of a good quality and processed well, it should remain smooth, and not get bitter. Umami should be present, giving you a broth-like experience. 7g will give you the power of the tea, for sure.
Using this quantity of tea leaves transformed the experience of the Asahina. I have to try the same brewing parameters with another Gyokuro that I have at home. In the meantime I used a 15% off coupon to order more of the Gyokuro mechanically harvested Gyokuro from Thes du Japon. By comparison with the Asahina it's a daily Gyokuro.
I was preparing Maiko's Gyokuro Nomigoro 5 gr, 60 ml, 45 C. I was getting what I thought was a fantastic brew. After reading your messages I decided to increase the leaf to 7 gr and the change is spectacular. Also I managed to enjoy three very good steeps (I did not have time to prepare more). And last but not least, my wife thought I've suddenly improved my steeping habitilies. Pity these morning We finished the tea.


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Re: Official what GREEN are you currently drinking?

by Tead Off » Feb 11th, '17, 22:06

PAQF wrote:
JRS22 wrote:
Tead Off wrote:Ippodo used to recommend 10g! If the Gyokuro is of a good quality and processed well, it should remain smooth, and not get bitter. Umami should be present, giving you a broth-like experience. 7g will give you the power of the tea, for sure.
Using this quantity of tea leaves transformed the experience of the Asahina. I have to try the same brewing parameters with another Gyokuro that I have at home. In the meantime I used a 15% off coupon to order more of the Gyokuro mechanically harvested Gyokuro from Thes du Japon. By comparison with the Asahina it's a daily Gyokuro.
I was preparing Maiko's Gyokuro Nomigoro 5 gr, 60 ml, 45 C. I was getting what I thought was a fantastic brew. After reading your messages I decided to increase the leaf to 7 gr and the change is spectacular. Also I managed to enjoy three very good steeps (I did not have time to prepare more). And last but not least, my wife thought I've suddenly improved my steeping habitilies. Pity these morning We finished the tea.


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Re: Official what GREEN are you currently drinking?

by PAQF » Feb 12th, '17, 11:27

Tead Off wrote:
PAQF wrote:
JRS22 wrote:
Tead Off wrote:Ippodo used to recommend 10g! If the Gyokuro is of a good quality and processed well, it should remain smooth, and not get bitter. Umami should be present, giving you a broth-like experience. 7g will give you the power of the tea, for sure.
Using this quantity of tea leaves transformed the experience of the Asahina. I have to try the same brewing parameters with another Gyokuro that I have at home. In the meantime I used a 15% off coupon to order more of the Gyokuro mechanically harvested Gyokuro from Thes du Japon. By comparison with the Asahina it's a daily Gyokuro.
I was preparing Maiko's Gyokuro Nomigoro 5 gr, 60 ml, 45 C. I was getting what I thought was a fantastic brew. After reading your messages I decided to increase the leaf to 7 gr and the change is spectacular. Also I managed to enjoy three very good steeps (I did not have time to prepare more). And last but not least, my wife thought I've suddenly improved my steeping habitilies. Pity these morning We finished the tea.


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The wife's approval is most important! :D
Indeed!


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Re: Official what GREEN are you currently drinking?

by victoria3 » Feb 15th, '17, 21:23

An enjoyable afternoon session with O-Cha's 2016 1st flush Kagoshima Sencha Yutaka Midori, from Ei. This sincha needs to be brewed on the cool side to avoid bitterness. It is now almost 1 year old spring harvest, opened in June 2016. Interestingly, steeping temperature was fine 10-15F warmer when fresh;
7gr/6oz/150F/90sec., steeped in preheated red clay twisted spout Tokoname kyusu.
To avoid bitterness in subsequent steeps, I held temps to 150F/153F/155F max.

A very green clear liquor, with no bitterness. Sweet, vegetal, smooth and warming profile.

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