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Need a tea term dictionary

by Intuit » Jun 6th, '09, 12:02

We need a tea dictionary. I see terms for Asian teaware and tea cultivars that are unfamiliar to me and probably to many others.

Should include a pronunciation guide. Would be seriously useful to the entire web-based tea community.

Ilya, if your mods with administrative rights can cut and paste thread entries, it maybe possible to construct a single thread to which terms are added, by placing them into alphabetical arrangement.

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by Proinsias » Jun 6th, '09, 12:07

Not quite all encompassing but Lew's Babelcarp works well for Chinese terms

http://www.panix.com/~perin/babelcarp.html

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by scruffmcgruff » Jun 6th, '09, 12:31

Proinsias wrote:Not quite all encompassing but Lew's Babelcarp works well for Chinese terms

http://www.panix.com/~perin/babelcarp.html


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by sneakers » Jun 9th, '09, 03:25

I don't think that's what Intuit had in mind. Who wants to have to spell out those terms. We need a dictionary.

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by scruffmcgruff » Jun 9th, '09, 03:31

You generally need to know how to spell the term to look it up in a dictionary too, or am I missing something?

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by sneakers » Jun 9th, '09, 03:39

Here are a few. I Googled "tea glossary." Someone could combine these, eliminating duplicates in Word, and start a master list:

http://www.inpursuitoftea.com/Over_50_t ... d_s/23.htm
http://www.imperialteagarden.com/teaglossary.html
http://www.hungrymonster.com/Foodfacts/Tea_Glossary.cfm
http://www.tealand.com/Glossary.htm

If it were put into one thread, with no replies allowed, the admin could keep editing it as more are added. How long after a post can one still do an edit?

So who wants the job? (':roll:')

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by brandon » Jun 9th, '09, 04:59

http://teadrunk.org/viewtopic.php?id=82

Will and I already sketched this out here, it is just that neither of us has been sufficiently motivated to hack a Mediaiwiki plugin to present things the way we want.

Basically, we want to put the glossary tags into the full wikicha articles as metadata, and have the Glossary page index them into tables automatically in the format I demonstrated. One would also want permission from Lew to start with his already extensive glossary of terms.

PHP coders, start your engines.

(Partial credit for a backend type script that parses the data from the full articles and compiles an index in wiki format to be posted manually. This could be done in pretty much any language you like.)

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by Chip » Jun 9th, '09, 09:09

Many vendors have some sort of list of terms. It is hard to include everything especially when you get into multiple translations of the same word.

Nevertheless TeaChat should have something!!!

Here is a Japanese glossary from O-Cha.

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by sneakers » Jun 9th, '09, 15:10

Will and I already sketched this out here, it is just that neither of us has been sufficiently motivated to hack a Mediaiwiki plugin to present things the way we want.


Brandon, what you're saying is total gibberish to most of us, and we can't understand that thread you cited. Can't we have something simple that doesn't take a programmer months to put together? You're aiming so high that we have nothing because it's too ambitious.

K.I.S.S. An alphabetical list within alphabetized subcategories, that gets updated now and then. Heck, I could even do it. And i will if enough people ask me. Since the Japanese glossary is so well done, just a link to that page can substitute for those, and maybe a link for the Chinese terms. And we don't need every variant spelling of every word, maybe the 2 or 3 most commonly used.

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by Chip » Jun 9th, '09, 15:31

sneakers wrote: I could even do it. And i will if enough people ask me.

I will keep you in mind since you are voluteering. :wink:

Please be a bit patient. I do want to discuss this with out host, get a little input from them.

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by sneakers » Jun 9th, '09, 15:40

I was serious about volunteering.But meantime there are plenty of glossaries on other sites

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by edkrueger » Jun 9th, '09, 15:58

There is no point In making another glossary list because others have them. As far as being useful on this front... I have my doubts that one who can neither understand nor google Brandon's words can.

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by brandon » Jun 9th, '09, 16:01

Eh. Well if you know what a Wiki is and can learn to edit it (not that hard),
http://wikicha.com/index.php/Glossary

Feel free to edit this page with your favorite terms.

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by Herb_Master » Jun 9th, '09, 17:08

brandon wrote:Eh. Well if you know what a Wiki is and can learn to edit it (not that hard),
http://wikicha.com/index.php/Glossary

Feel free to edit this page with your favorite terms.


Timorously, I tried an edit. 3 Da Hong Pao children that friends in Malaysia recommend. I hope I have not upset anything, I don't know how to insert chinese characters - my references were written down by Malaysian friends. I looked for cut and paste amongst online vendors selling these teas - but to no avail - the characters were pictorial or absent.

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by brandon » Jun 9th, '09, 18:44

Herb_Master wrote:
brandon wrote:Eh. Well if you know what a Wiki is and can learn to edit it (not that hard),
http://wikicha.com/index.php/Glossary

Feel free to edit this page with your favorite terms.


Timorously, I tried an edit. 3 Da Hong Pao children that friends in Malaysia recommend. I hope I have not upset anything, I don't know how to insert chinese characters - my references were written down by Malaysian friends. I looked for cut and paste amongst online vendors selling these teas - but to no avail - the characters were pictorial or absent.


Great stuff and perfectly edited, thanks! I honestly didn't know what Bei Dou was, I had just assumed it was a unique but less famous cultivar. The characters could be added in at any time, that is the nature of the wiki.

I looked up a few of the characters from Babelcarp, and in this case the English text you dug up is much more informative.

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