Thai [iced] tea?

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Thai [iced] tea?

by Fry-kun » Jan 18th 14 4:03 am

I've been hunting for a recipe for thai iced tea -- there are plenty of tutorials online, but most just say "buy thai tea powder/bags & drop it in boiling water" >_<
Ones that don't suggest some spices like cardamom, star anise, cloves... but so far I've tried those and the tea (while nicely flavored) doesn't smell like the thai tea I'm used to (one that's served in restaraunts)

Does anyone have an idea what really goes in there?

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Re: Thai [iced] tea?

by chingwa » Jan 19th 14 2:56 pm

A whole lot of sugar. and milk.

Honestly I've never tried making it at home, but it doesn't seem so far off from indian chai... which is usually made with (black) orange pekoe tea. At restaurants I've never really noticed any additional spices put in.

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Re: Thai [iced] tea?

by jayinhk » Jan 19th 14 6:49 pm

They add orange blossom water and food coloring too; I think most just use a mix in Thailand though!

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Re: Thai [iced] tea?

by ethan » Jan 19th 14 7:46 pm

fry kum, which restaurants? where?

Thai iced tea on the street, is cheap tea dust used in quantity brewed long; often then mixed w/ some quickly infused; then, added is a lot of sugar, then, sometimes, a pinch or more of salt & menow (cross between lemon & lime-- or, sweetened condensed milk that contains a significant amount of palm kernel oil.
Some restaurants replicate this; some don't.

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Re: Thai [iced] tea?

by Fry-kun » Jan 20th 14 5:39 pm

chingwa wrote:At restaurants I've never really noticed any additional spices put in.
No, I think the restaurants usually just buy bagged premixed thai tea (with food coloring)
ethan wrote:fry kum, which restaurants? where?
Most Thai restaurants in US (Bay Area, in particular).


http://www.amazon.com/Authentic-Thai-Ic ... B004EEW2HW I've tried this one -- it has the right smell/taste but I want to know what's in it

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Re: Thai [iced] tea?

by jayinhk » Jan 20th 14 11:18 pm

This one appears to be just tea and food coloring...

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000KK ... B000KK39CQ

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Re: Thai [iced] tea?

by ethan » Jan 21st 14 12:59 am

In Boston the Thai restaurants seem to give one strong tea w/ lots of sweetened condensed milk on top which comes down very slowly because of the ice. (no palm kernel oil)
I haven't had Thai ice tea w/ spices anywhere

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Re: Thai [iced] tea?

by Fry-kun » Jan 21st 14 2:16 am

jayinhk wrote:This one appears to be just tea and food coloring...

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000KK ... B000KK39CQ
Exactly. I don't want to drink the food coloring for no reason, so I'm trying to find what's in there.


To everyone mentioning sugar & dairy: yes, I know it comes loaded with those. The base flavor is still different than a plain black tea -- it's kind of similar to pu-erh, but it doesn't match any pu-erh I've tried to date. I want to know what that base flavor is -- whether it's spices or fermentation/etc.

Thanks!

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Re: Thai [iced] tea?

by jayinhk » Jan 21st 14 2:19 am

Totally understandable, I'm not a fan of artificial coloring either! Now you've got me curious too!

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Re: Thai [iced] tea?

by Fry-kun » Jan 23rd 14 12:02 am

I swear, it's almost as if it were a trade secret or something, like the recipe for Coke :)

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Re: Thai [iced] tea?

by mbanu » Jan 28th 14 3:59 am

Fry-kun wrote:To everyone mentioning sugar & dairy: yes, I know it comes loaded with those. The base flavor is still different than a plain black tea -- it's kind of similar to pu-erh, but it doesn't match any pu-erh I've tried to date. I want to know what that base flavor is -- whether it's spices or fermentation/etc.

Thanks!
I read a blog written by a worker at the Sribhud tea factory in Thailand, and they said that secondary fermentation within the factory was key to the unique flavor. I think they weren't supposed to say that, though, as the post was later taken down... :) I don't know if there are also added spices or not.

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Re: Thai [iced] tea?

by MEversbergII » Jan 28th 14 2:00 pm

I tried Thai iced tea last time I went to a local Thai place. I'll have to say it was the most revolting thing :/

There was an intense sweetness to it, but it certainly did not taste like sugar sweetness.

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Re: Thai [iced] tea?

by Fry-kun » Jan 28th 14 11:23 pm

mbanu wrote: I read a blog written by a worker at the Sribhud tea factory in Thailand, and they said that secondary fermentation within the factory was key to the unique flavor. I think they weren't supposed to say that, though, as the post was later taken down... :) I don't know if there are also added spices or not.
Thanks, that's most likely the case.
Here's an interesting snippet that google found (it's just a subframe in a larger page; no idea which one):
http://static.fastcommerce.com/content/ ... 10001.html

Now, if only we could ask Adagio to stock some of this fermented tea :)

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Re: Thai [iced] tea?

by Fry-kun » Feb 4th 14 10:41 pm

So... who should we contact at Adagio to ask them to carry fermented Thai tea?

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Re: Thai [iced] tea?

by Chip » Feb 5th 14 12:57 am

Fry-kun wrote:So... who should we contact at Adagio to ask them to carry fermented Thai tea?
You can post your recommendation here:
http://www.teachat.com/viewforum.php?f=10