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Re: Official/Different Yixing Show Off Topic!

by the_economist » Dec 2nd 11 5:16 am

Yeah the technological level isn't good. Why do you think the clay isn't good? You're referring to the zini clay inside right?

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Re: Official/Different Yixing Show Off Topic!

by chrl42 » Dec 7th 11 3:10 am

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A tiny 内紫外红 pot. Lid fit/knob is awful, handle shape is strange, but I like the zini clay inside. 40-50ml.
Nei Zi Wai Hong first appeared from Factory1 since mid-70's, but it shouldn't be from that factory..

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Re: Official/Different Yixing Show Off Topic!

by apolon » Dec 7th 11 7:19 am

I think Nei Zi Wai Hong existed before that time. They just weren't that mass produced.

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Re: Official/Different Yixing Show Off Topic!

by Poohblah » Dec 7th 11 5:49 pm

Sorry to butt in on this conversation, but if the name of this style is 內紫外紅, does that imply that the clay on the inside of the pot is different from the clay on the outside of the pot? More specifically, purple clay on the inside and red clay on the outside?

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Re: Official/Different Yixing Show Off Topic!

by brandon » Dec 7th 11 6:57 pm

Poohblah wrote:Sorry to butt in on this conversation, but if the name of this style is 內紫外紅, does that imply that the clay on the inside of the pot is different from the clay on the outside of the pot? More specifically, purple clay on the inside and red clay on the outside?
You've basically covered it.

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Re: Official/Different Yixing Show Off Topic!

by tenuki » Dec 7th 11 7:01 pm

the_economist wrote:
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A tiny 内紫外红 pot. Lid fit/knob is awful, handle shape is strange, but I like the zini clay inside. 40-50ml.

Sweet little pot. I'm gravitating to the tiny pots myself nowdays, when I'm not just throwing tea into a cup.

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Re: Official/Different Yixing Show Off Topic!

by chrl42 » Dec 8th 11 8:15 am

Poohblah wrote:Sorry to butt in on this conversation, but if the name of this style is 內紫外紅, does that imply that the clay on the inside of the pot is different from the clay on the outside of the pot? More specifically, purple clay on the inside and red clay on the outside?
Coming to 70's, Hongni they used to use (Zhaozhuang) during 5~60's became extinct. They'd found out new Hongnis but saw problems using it solely, from color, plasticity and so on..NZWH must be one of ways to make Hongni pot, first made with common Zini then dip it with Hongni liquid...

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Re: Official/Different Yixing Show Off Topic!

by needaTEAcher » Dec 9th 11 8:19 am

I neep some help from the pros!!!

I posted this pot a while back, but I just got it looked at by an expert and learned more. Here is what I was told:

- Clay: Duanni (he said it is the original kind of duanni that isn't mixed with anything called “pear duanni")
- Size: 180 ml
- Year: around 2000 or 2001
- Walls: thin-walled
- Fired: ???
- Pour: +/-9 sec, some dripping from the lid if it isn't turned just so
- Filter: 7-hole screen
- Where: Insadong, Seoul, South Korea
- Pairing: Started with 8 years and older sheng and shou pu, tried silver needles, settled with Wuyi rock oolong. My guy said that the Wuyi is a good pair for this pot.
- Qualities: Smoothes out flavors, at times too much though. Reduces the astringent bite.

I paid about $27 for this pot. The expert looked at it for a while, even really examining the chop and other parts with a magnifying glass. He recognised the chop and showed me another pot with the same chop and said it is a famous woman's chop. I forgot her name (should have written it down!!). He checked online and found photos of similair pots and said they are all part of a group. He said it is an art peice, and she is more famous now. He said it is worth about 1,000 yuan, or about $170. Am I stupid lucky or could this dude be off? He seems to really know his stuff, and he is pretty high up in a very large zisha ceramics/puerh company. I asked if it might be a fake and after another long look he said no.

Thoughts? Feedback? Anypne recognize the chop? Thanks!!
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Re: Official/Different Yixing Show Off Topic!

by apolon » Dec 10th 11 12:06 pm

This is one of mine old Nei Zi Wai Hong:
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Re: Official/Different Yixing Show Off Topic!

by apolon » Dec 10th 11 12:08 pm

The pot is high fired, so the zini clay inside is greyish:
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Re: Official/Different Yixing Show Off Topic!

by apolon » Dec 10th 11 12:11 pm

This is old Zhuni pot. The clay is beautiful in person, a rare treasure:
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Re: Official/Different Yixing Show Off Topic!

by chrl42 » Dec 10th 11 12:29 pm

apolon wrote:The pot is high fired, so the zini clay inside is greyish:
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A hand-made Neizi Waihong, a rare one. Or could be due to wood-kiln??

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Re: Official/Different Yixing Show Off Topic!

by chrl42 » Dec 10th 11 12:31 pm

apolon wrote:This is old Zhuni pot. The clay is beautiful in person, a rare treasure:
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A beautiful Yigong, made to perfection, looks Xiao Mei Yao Zhuni..90's Taiwan-ordered pot? A collector :)

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Re: Official/Different Yixing Show Off Topic!

by David R. » Dec 10th 11 12:38 pm

Two really gorgeous pots ! Congrats !!

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Re: Official/Different Yixing Show Off Topic!

by auhckw » Dec 10th 11 1:06 pm

Artist pot.. Duanni... Fully hand made... About 300ml...
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Nice.. but the price tag is kind of... USD2,500... Nice, but this is not my level yet :(