Shiboridashi size for one person

[Bef]

I am looking to buy a shiboridashi. I will use it only for myself, to prepare gyokuro.

Now, the size of most shiboridashi is between 90 and 100 ml, when full.

I am wondering: can/should I fill a shiboridashi up its maximum volume? Or can I fill it up to, say, 50-60 ml only?

I don't see myself always drinking a full 3 oz of gyokuro, so this is why I'm asking.

[Chip]

You can do that for gyokuro ... and sencha as well.

Besides, usually for a 100 ml shib, after the leaves expand in the first and/or second steeping of gyokuro, they displace a significant amount of water in subsequent steeps ... depending on how much leaf you use, you might only be able to pour 50-60 ml in anyway.

For me, sometimes after a few steeps of gyo, the leaves fill the shib, houhin, etc. This is a pretty concentrated session. Maybe a ratio of 3 grams leaves per 1 ounce water. Zing!

[debunix]

There is also the option of a very tiny shibo from one of our teaware artisans, such as this little gem from Shawn McGuire

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Which holds about 60 mL but yields about 30 mL per infusion when full of wet gyo leaf like this....



I don't see any similarly sized pieces on his etsy site at the moment, but there likely could be if someone asked.

[Bef]

Chip: Thank you so much. This is exactly the information that I was looking for.

Debunix: Very nice set. I love how it looks. Was more interested in a non-glazed vessel, though. Still, I might send Shawn an e-mail to see what he has in stock.

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Another option that I was considering was the teapots from Jinshu, such as this one: http://www.tokoname.or.jp/teapot/maker_ ... hu0039.htm

However, I'm not sure that they are good for gyokuro, or if they are not specially meant for the kind special japanese teas with very long leaves (see the images at the very bottom). Also, because of their shape, I'm not sure if they would hold the heat properly...

[JRS22]

I prefer glazed pots for gyokuro. I snagged this beautiful thin glazed inside shib from Shawn at Greenwood Studio last spring. It holds around 60 ml and makes wonderful gyo which I then sip from a tiny snowflake crackle glazed cup.

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[Bef]

I snagged this beautiful thin glazed inside shib from Shawn at Greenwood Studio last spring. It holds around 60 ml and makes wonderful gyo which I then sip from a tiny snowflake crackle glazed cup

Look very nice. Sent an e-mail to Shawn to see what he has in stock.

[Bef]

Anyone has an opinion on this kind of teapot, for brewing gyokuro for one person?

http://www.tokoname.or.jp/teapot/maker_ ... hu0039.htm

They also have a smaller one, at 70 ml.

[Fuut]

There is also the option of a very tiny shibo from one of our teaware artisans, such as this little gem from Shawn McGuire

Off topic, but Shawn's wares match sooo well! I saw you noticed as well, i was so happy when the new pieces started coming in last week. -end of interuption

[Chip]

Anyone has an opinion on this kind of teapot, for brewing gyokuro for one person?

http://www.tokoname.or.jp/teapot/maker_ ... hu0039.htm

They also have a smaller one, at 70 ml.

Personal opinion. Hmmm. That is my opinion.

This type of kyusu is ideal for brewing gyokuro with the lid off and viewing the unfurling leaves. I would likely not recommend it for a first gyokuro brewing vessel as it may not be as versatile as a shib or houhin. I would like to try one but have not.

But I have admired Jinshu's works for years.

[Bef]

Personal opinion. Hmmm. That is my opinion.

This type of kyusu is ideal for brewing gyokuro with the lid off and viewing the unfurling leaves. I would likely not recommend it for a first gyokuro brewing vessel as it may not be as versatile as a shib or houhin. I would like to try one but have not.

But I have admired Jinshu's works for years.

Thanks Chip. These Jinshu teapots were almost the only ones that I found that were very small (70-80 ml). I guess that I need to wait either for Shawn's answer or for something new to appear on Artistic Nippon or tokoname.or.jp...

BTW, here is a nice video of Jinshu using of of these teapots to brew gyokuro: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=K5SpQWxjpVo

[Bef]

What do you guys think about this one?

https://www.o-cha.com/Mogake-Shiboridash-Teapot.html

Looks nice to me, but I would like to have the opinion of people who have some experience with gyokuro and/or shiboridashi.

[Poseidon]

What do you guys think about this one?

https://www.o-cha.com/Mogake-Shiboridash-Teapot.html

Looks nice to me, but I would like to have the opinion of people who have some experience with gyokuro and/or shiboridashi.

Ive always liked my houhin for green brewing. Its almost the same as a shiboridashi but a little less gaiwan looking. If in not mistaken, houhin and shiboridashi were made specifically for green tea brewing. At least that is what my memory is telling me...

PS. The Shi' you posted looks nice. This may also be an option for you: https://www.o-cha.com/houhin-teapot-set.html

I think it all comes down to personal preference.

[bob]

What do you guys think about this one?

https://www.o-cha.com/Mogake-Shiboridash-Teapot.html

Looks nice to me, but I would like to have the opinion of people who have some experience with gyokuro and/or shiboridashi.

I recently got the shiboridashi you linked as a birthday present. I think it's great for 1-2 person use, I like the mogake design/appearance a lot, it's nicely made, from a known artist and the price is reasonable. I'm using it for gyokuro and I find 100 ml size to be perfect.

I'll try to post a few images later when I get home...

[Chip]

What do you guys think about this one?

https://www.o-cha.com/Mogake-Shiboridash-Teapot.html

Looks nice to me, but I would like to have the opinion of people who have some experience with gyokuro and/or shiboridashi.

Nice shib! Sort of has a yohen effect as well.

[Chip]

What do you guys think about this one?

https://www.o-cha.com/Mogake-Shiboridash-Teapot.html

Looks nice to me, but I would like to have the opinion of people who have some experience with gyokuro and/or shiboridashi.

Ive always liked my houhin for green brewing. Its almost the same as a shiboridashi but a little less gaiwan looking. If in not mistaken, houhin and shiboridashi were made specifically for green tea brewing. At least that is what my memory is telling me...

PS. The Shi' you posted looks nice. This may also be an option for you: https://www.o-cha.com/houhin-teapot-set.html

I think it all comes down to personal preference.

Shibs tend to have a "rake" and are thus flatter in shape.
Houhin tend to have an actual screen of some kind and are thus taller by necessity.