Another thing to consider is that even though it may have a temperature that it stays at, the actual temperature of the water when it is dispensed is slightly less. I have a 3L version with 140, 195, and 208 as its settings. I find that putting it at 195 and dispensing the water into a non-preheated pot brings it to the right temperature for Japanese greens as long as the leaves are added to the water after it is in the pot. My other method is a lot more complicated and involves preheating both the pot and the cup and using the preheating cup to get the water to the correct temperature. Either way, the 195 works fine for greens as long as you don't dispense the water directly on the leaves.
If I were to get another one, I would definitely get a larger version. I like my three temperature settings, but given the 175 as well, it might be slightly more useful, though I have my brewing parameters worked out with the three temperatures that my Zoji has. The timer setting is so useful when you know what time you are getting up in the morning or getting home again so the water can be ready when you need it to be.
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I have the CD-JSC30. Its 3 liters and it seems to be a good size because I feel like I wouldn't need more than three liters at a time. The only iritating thing is even when you set the temp below boiling (say like the lowest) the water comes up to a boil, then goes back down to your specified temp. I don't like that so much since I'd rather hit the lower temps going up, as opposed to down.
Other than that, I really like the model I have! it does 140, 195, and 208. I kind of wished there was another temp in between 140 and 195 but that isn't so important.
Other than that, I really like the model I have! it does 140, 195, and 208. I kind of wished there was another temp in between 140 and 195 but that isn't so important.
I don't mind selling it but I don't have the original box (but do have the manual); and I think shipping might be high because we don't have UPS nearby and I'd have to ship it by USPS.tea-guy wrote:Have you considered selling it? I could get both...Rainy-Day wrote:... so unfortunately it's sitting in the closet for the last year and a half or so. I used it maybe 20 times at most.
The Zutto series would match my Zutto rice cooker... also the low temp of 140 degrees (Fahrenheit) is much lower than the other model's lowest of 175 (Fahrenheit).
Actually I was misremembering about the temperatures, it has 140 which is too low for chines greens and 195 which is too high. I think good temp would be around 160-170.
Another thing is that it heats water very slowly, slower than gas range, and if water is kept at high temp for a long time, I think it loses oxygen.. I don't know, but it seems like this is a perfect product for your typical family especially if you need to make quick oatmeal for kids, but it's not suitable for fancy tea drinking.
Another thing about them is that it wants to reboil water by default, so let's say if you have water at 140 and you add some amount of water, it will boil it (which takes quite a long time), then it will wait for it to cool down to 140 (which takes even much longer), and the only way to avoid this is to wait for it to get to ~140 and then unplug/replug the power cable. There's no 'stop boiling' button. The reason they did it like that is for safety, to make sure that no potentially "bad" water is available from the dispenser, and it's not convenient to circumvent this behaviour.
As I said, a perfect family dispenser, but for a green or gong fu tea fans - not so great.
I don't know how others do this... but this is my technique for managing water temp on the Zoji for greens.
I keep the temp at 195 all the time... so it heats easily and quickly to boiling if I need to go up. But when I want it cooler for matcha or shincha/sencha/gyo, I dispense the 195 water into my pot and cup to pre-warm... and then I add cold fresh water to the Zoji. The temperature gauge shows the current temp, and I add fresh water until I get it about 5-10 degrees cooler than my desired temp.... and I tilt it side to side a few times to somewhat mix the fresh and hot water. Then, while I'm emptying the water from the preheated pot and up... and adding tea leaves to prewarm (or sifting matcha as the case may be), the water is rewarming and is back up to the desired and perfect temp at exactly the right time for me to dispense into my pot. This is quick, easy, and seems to yield very satisfactory results without much fuss or having to pull out a thermometer.
Love my Zoji!
Sarah
I keep the temp at 195 all the time... so it heats easily and quickly to boiling if I need to go up. But when I want it cooler for matcha or shincha/sencha/gyo, I dispense the 195 water into my pot and cup to pre-warm... and then I add cold fresh water to the Zoji. The temperature gauge shows the current temp, and I add fresh water until I get it about 5-10 degrees cooler than my desired temp.... and I tilt it side to side a few times to somewhat mix the fresh and hot water. Then, while I'm emptying the water from the preheated pot and up... and adding tea leaves to prewarm (or sifting matcha as the case may be), the water is rewarming and is back up to the desired and perfect temp at exactly the right time for me to dispense into my pot. This is quick, easy, and seems to yield very satisfactory results without much fuss or having to pull out a thermometer.
Love my Zoji!
Sarah
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i have the 5 L pan -o- view one i got it at a market along with some tea.
it could be bigger
i keep it full also at 195 and have 1 water jar full and 2--2 qt pitchers as refill water.
it could be bigger
cost a bit more than others but its quick and holds 5L
it could be bigger
its nice with the water pump and i find when i use it i use more water than a kettle but the water tastes better.
it could be bigger
it has a self cleaning setting and for the others without well water it has a chlorine boil out setting along with a auto shut off for if it runs out of watter!!!
it could be bigger
oh do they make one bigger than 5L?? i would get it too as backup.
it could be bigger
i keep it full also at 195 and have 1 water jar full and 2--2 qt pitchers as refill water.
it could be bigger
cost a bit more than others but its quick and holds 5L
it could be bigger
its nice with the water pump and i find when i use it i use more water than a kettle but the water tastes better.
it could be bigger
it has a self cleaning setting and for the others without well water it has a chlorine boil out setting along with a auto shut off for if it runs out of watter!!!
it could be bigger
oh do they make one bigger than 5L?? i would get it too as backup.
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Wow, that sounds like hard work! And makes me feel unsophisticatedkymidwife wrote:I don't know how others do this... but this is my technique for managing water temp on the Zoji for greens....
. I cool my too-hot water in a Pyrex measuring cup (if it needs to be cooler than the temp it would end up if I using it to preheat my cup and pot).Nahhh it's pretty easy... and I only do it for teas that are particularly temperature-sensitive. Just pour in some fresh water, watch the digital drop to about 150... prepare my kyusu or sift my matcha... recheck the digital temp and dispense when its 160 or 170, depending on what I'm making.auggy wrote:Wow, that sounds like hard work!
Easypeasy!
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I guess it tends to be a process for me when I refill (i rinse and wipe and rinse and filter and fill) so I'm thinking of that when I imagine it. Once the water is at the correct temp and you've used it, do you let the water reboil or do you unplug it and then plug it back in to stop the boil?kymidwife wrote:Nahhh it's pretty easy... and I only do it for teas that are particularly temperature-sensitive. Just pour in some fresh water, watch the digital drop to about 150... prepare my kyusu or sift my matcha... recheck the digital temp and dispense when its 160 or 170, depending on what I'm making.
Easypeasy!
Sarah
I top it off to "full", let it reboil to 212, and then I keep it set to 195 all the time.
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The CV-DSC40 I picked up (partly at the urging of this thread), is advertised as pulling an average of 17MWh, which is low when compared to other brands.
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One of the reasons for reboiling is due to the variances in temperature which can occur from the bottom of the warmer to the top of the water level. The only way to ensure the water is of uniform temperature is to boil it.
Also, boiling eliminates germs while warm water provides a breeding ground for them.
Just a few points to make.
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One of the reasons for reboiling is due to the variances in temperature which can occur from the bottom of the warmer to the top of the water level. The only way to ensure the water is of uniform temperature is to boil it.
Also, boiling eliminates germs while warm water provides a breeding ground for them.
Just a few points to make.
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