need help finding tea....
my father recently got remarried to a korean woman. when i went to visit them, her brother and sister from korea were also there. they had brought with them some different teas from korea. i tried one that was very sweet when brewed, without any sugar or anything added. i had never had a tea like this, and was amazed by the natural flavor. i asked her what kind it was, but she could not tell me, because she did not know how to translate the name into english. however, her sister had brought an electronic translator. the translator said that it was hydrangea tea. after doing some research, i've found out that the tea is called amacha tea. perhaps some of you have heard of this? anyway, i'm trying to find a place where i can purchase amacha tea. i live in western pennsylvania, there aren't any specialty tea stores nearby, so i'm looking specifically for an online store. if anyone could provide me with any links i would greatly appreciate it.
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Where in KTOWN can I find Amacha?
Where exactly in Ktown can I find Amacha tea? Tried the Galleria and Koreatown Plaza. Tried Chinatown. Tried little tokyo.
it is unreasonably difficult to get korean tea in the US...
You'll have much better luck using connections to someone who's in Korea.
Sounds very interesting. I almost had a heart attack when I saw it was $40 for 25g but then I read where it said to use 2-3 leaves per 10oz. That must be one sweet plant.Victoria wrote:Hankook Tea in LA sells Hydrangea tea:
http://www.hankooktea.com/hydrangea-tea-25g-can-.html
Yeah, they are pretty high there, but some nice things.
And very friendly and helpful staff.
It's not like you would be drinking this one every day,
and that is a small amount of leaves to use.
Now, I'm curious. I think I turned down a sample last time I was there.
Not much on herbals but now I'm intrigued.

And very friendly and helpful staff.
It's not like you would be drinking this one every day,
and that is a small amount of leaves to use.
Now, I'm curious. I think I turned down a sample last time I was there.
Not much on herbals but now I'm intrigued.

- Victoria -
http://victoriasown.blogspot.com/
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Being native Korean, I've never heard such as amacha or hydrangea tea before so I googled to find some info.
Amacha (Homacrophylla SERINGE Var. acumimata MAKINO) is Japanese tea, resembling has Korean Gamlocha (甘露茶 in Chinese or Isulcha in pure Korean)
I've had Gamlocha before, character is it's very sweet (amino acid?), it's not made from camelia sinensis, it's made from Hydrangea macrophylla var. thunbergii.
Leaf is fairly big, if I'm to name any closer species (which is very hard), I would do Taiwanese Pouchong..
Amacha (Homacrophylla SERINGE Var. acumimata MAKINO) is Japanese tea, resembling has Korean Gamlocha (甘露茶 in Chinese or Isulcha in pure Korean)
I've had Gamlocha before, character is it's very sweet (amino acid?), it's not made from camelia sinensis, it's made from Hydrangea macrophylla var. thunbergii.
Leaf is fairly big, if I'm to name any closer species (which is very hard), I would do Taiwanese Pouchong..
Aha!
Now this Hydrangea hybrid mentioned by Charl42 perked up my ears, because I remembered reading a paper about one of it's physiologically active compounds last year that is reported to have significant anti-diabetic properties.
Hydrangeic acid from the processed leaves of Hydrangea macrophylla var. thunbergii as a new type of anti-diabetic compound. European Journal of Pharmacology 606(3):255-261 (15 March 2009), online edition Dec 2008.
Abstract: Hydrangeic acid (3–100 μM), a stilbene constituent of the processed leaves of Hydrangea macrophylla var. thunbergii (Hydrangeae Dulcis Folium), promoted adipogenesis of 3T3-L1 cells. Hydrangeic acid significantly increased the amount of adiponectin released into the medium, the uptake of 2-deoxyglucose into the cells, and the translocation of glucose transporter 4 (GLUT4). Hydrangeic acid also increased mRNA levels of adiponectin, peroxisome proliferator-activated receptor γ2 (PPARγ2), GLUT4, and fatty acid-binding protein (aP2) while it decreased the expression of tumor necrosis factor α (TNF-α) mRNA. However, it did not activate PPARγ directly different from troglitazone in a nuclear receptor cofactor assay system. Furthermore, hydrangeic acid significantly lowered blood glucose, triglyceride, and free fatty acid levels after its administration for 2 weeks at a dose of 200 mg/kg/day (p.o.) in KK-Ay mice.
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Now most of this abstract will read like technobabble, but believe me, you WANT to see more natural compounds like this one that reduce triglycerides and TNF-alpha, because it also plays an important role in cytokine inflammatory response. This cytokine mediation is important to pathogen immune response and also plays a central role in autoimmune disease.
To get at the larger causes of the diabetes epidemic that is now prevalent globally in rich and poor nations alike thanks to fast food globalization and the ubiquitous use of high-mass fructose oligomers (thanks to the US corn growers) in processed foods, requires lifestyle changes, certain other environmental factor remedied, and cheap drugs sans patents and side effects from derivatization (to make it unique and thus patentable) to overhaul the whacked-out regulation of gene expression in mitochondria AND cell nucleus of type 2 diabetics and insulin resistant pre-diabetics.
Charles mentions the sweet taste of the hydrangea tea - that's probably due to the presence of inositol, another exceptionally important amino-acid like compound. The give away, mentioned here:
http://www.naturalstandard.com/index-ab ... rangea.asp
is the reference to treatment of alopecia. That would indeed be inositol, a cheap and effective treatment for hair thinning and loss for both men and wimmin. It's also found in Kombuca tea. What it does is slow down hair shaft turnover and the stilbene like compounds reduce fatty acid deposition in sebaceous glands that both accelerates hair turnover and inflammation as well, plus occlusion of the shaft that spells doom for folicular longevity.
For the glaket members of the biomedical community, this hydrangeic acid secondarily increases perforin expression, improving water flux out of cells concurrent with glucose uptake and utilization, and also has on effect on down-regulating angiotensin conversion, reducing blood pressure irregularities via kidney tubule potassium/chloride balance that drives vascular tension and peripheral tissue swelling (freaking CLASSIC for pre- and full-on T2D).
The golden nugget here remains the TNF-alpha control. It's part and parcel of a much larger and stunningly important cellular cascade that underpins much of the public health crisis in the US.
Mr Obama and Congress would do well to get at the very heart of the essential physical causatives, and stop injecting public money (future debt) that is little more than a finger in the proverbial dyke holding back the flood of heath care expenditures that presently consume a full half of our Federal budget and shortly will take up much much more as the waves of BabyBoomer retirements get underway.
PS: this post is far too long for ADHD folks, but inositol helps there, too. :-)
Hydrangeic acid from the processed leaves of Hydrangea macrophylla var. thunbergii as a new type of anti-diabetic compound. European Journal of Pharmacology 606(3):255-261 (15 March 2009), online edition Dec 2008.
Abstract: Hydrangeic acid (3–100 μM), a stilbene constituent of the processed leaves of Hydrangea macrophylla var. thunbergii (Hydrangeae Dulcis Folium), promoted adipogenesis of 3T3-L1 cells. Hydrangeic acid significantly increased the amount of adiponectin released into the medium, the uptake of 2-deoxyglucose into the cells, and the translocation of glucose transporter 4 (GLUT4). Hydrangeic acid also increased mRNA levels of adiponectin, peroxisome proliferator-activated receptor γ2 (PPARγ2), GLUT4, and fatty acid-binding protein (aP2) while it decreased the expression of tumor necrosis factor α (TNF-α) mRNA. However, it did not activate PPARγ directly different from troglitazone in a nuclear receptor cofactor assay system. Furthermore, hydrangeic acid significantly lowered blood glucose, triglyceride, and free fatty acid levels after its administration for 2 weeks at a dose of 200 mg/kg/day (p.o.) in KK-Ay mice.
~
Now most of this abstract will read like technobabble, but believe me, you WANT to see more natural compounds like this one that reduce triglycerides and TNF-alpha, because it also plays an important role in cytokine inflammatory response. This cytokine mediation is important to pathogen immune response and also plays a central role in autoimmune disease.
To get at the larger causes of the diabetes epidemic that is now prevalent globally in rich and poor nations alike thanks to fast food globalization and the ubiquitous use of high-mass fructose oligomers (thanks to the US corn growers) in processed foods, requires lifestyle changes, certain other environmental factor remedied, and cheap drugs sans patents and side effects from derivatization (to make it unique and thus patentable) to overhaul the whacked-out regulation of gene expression in mitochondria AND cell nucleus of type 2 diabetics and insulin resistant pre-diabetics.
Charles mentions the sweet taste of the hydrangea tea - that's probably due to the presence of inositol, another exceptionally important amino-acid like compound. The give away, mentioned here:
http://www.naturalstandard.com/index-ab ... rangea.asp
is the reference to treatment of alopecia. That would indeed be inositol, a cheap and effective treatment for hair thinning and loss for both men and wimmin. It's also found in Kombuca tea. What it does is slow down hair shaft turnover and the stilbene like compounds reduce fatty acid deposition in sebaceous glands that both accelerates hair turnover and inflammation as well, plus occlusion of the shaft that spells doom for folicular longevity.
For the glaket members of the biomedical community, this hydrangeic acid secondarily increases perforin expression, improving water flux out of cells concurrent with glucose uptake and utilization, and also has on effect on down-regulating angiotensin conversion, reducing blood pressure irregularities via kidney tubule potassium/chloride balance that drives vascular tension and peripheral tissue swelling (freaking CLASSIC for pre- and full-on T2D).
The golden nugget here remains the TNF-alpha control. It's part and parcel of a much larger and stunningly important cellular cascade that underpins much of the public health crisis in the US.
Mr Obama and Congress would do well to get at the very heart of the essential physical causatives, and stop injecting public money (future debt) that is little more than a finger in the proverbial dyke holding back the flood of heath care expenditures that presently consume a full half of our Federal budget and shortly will take up much much more as the waves of BabyBoomer retirements get underway.
PS: this post is far too long for ADHD folks, but inositol helps there, too. :-)