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by JPX » Jul 9th, '09, 15:41

that video that was just posted is exactly what i was told to do.

I mainly buy my tea at Camelia sinensis in montreal (since im from there) and they have this little paper they give to new people where they explain most of the techniques to brew tea.

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senchado is basicly what i wrote in my first post
they say the first steep should be between 15 and 45 seconds
everysteep should be a bit longer afterward.


i had some great success with it tho.

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by clareandromeda » Jul 9th, '09, 17:14

Chip wrote: Then our habit of converting leaf ratios into a Grams Leaf per Ounces Water must drive you batty? Funny thing is, I think some vendors are picking this up from us and using it on their sites.

It is a nice ratio IMHO, but it bugs me a bit TBH. a .75 : 1 sounds nicer than .75 : 30. 8)
Ok now I'm reaaaaally confused ( I am not so good at math). I have been using a cup to measure my water soo (237 mL/8 fluid Oz) and I have been using 1 tsp/4 g sencha or 1 1/2 tsp/6 g Shincha... am I over or under here? mesurement conversions..ratios... ahhh.....

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by Chip » Jul 9th, '09, 17:40

The .75:1 is just an example ratio. Most of us will vary the ratio depending on the Japanese tea and personal taste. 4 grams leaf to 8 ounces is a .5:1 ounce water ratio. 6 grams per 8 ounces is .75:1.

I am typically .6-1.0 grams : 1 ounce water for sencha. Gyokuro can be a much higher ratio, 1.0-2.0: 1 ounce water ... or even more leaf!

Clear as fukamushi? Ratios are helpful especially if you want a smaller brew at the same strength, and for sharing parameters.
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by Chip » Jul 9th, '09, 17:43

JPX wrote:that video that was just posted is exactly what i was told to do.

I mainly buy my tea at Camelia sinensis in montreal (since im from there) and they have this little paper they give to new people where they explain most of the techniques to brew tea.

Gong fu cha,
chung (gaiwan)
Senchado

senchado is basicly what i wrote in my first post
they say the first steep should be between 15 and 45 seconds
everysteep should be a bit longer afterward.

i had some great success with it tho.
Interesting, what is important is your personal satisfaction. I like to remain open minded and to experiment. The "softer" parameters you mention will be much more forgiving.
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by clareandromeda » Jul 9th, '09, 18:31

ahhh thank you Master Chip. I now see the way :) ....

I have some gyo I'm going to bust open this weekend. It's my first try...wish me luck!

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by thirtysixbelow » Jul 9th, '09, 19:09

clareandromeda wrote:I've made cups I've deemed "to weak" at about that temperature and for much longer.... perhaps I have indelicate taste buds. I also have decided after the millionth time converting C to F I need to stop operating in Fahrenheit and into Celc...and in ML.... instead of ounces. damn American forms of measurement. Damn you Benjamin Franklin!
I know all the water temps in Fahrenheit so I never need to convert on that but I hate mL; I always have to convert to oz. I have gotten used to gram measurements though because I can visualize a 100g or 50g pouch of tea or a 30g can of matcha and I have a scale that measures grams. I actually find myself wanting to know leaf to water ratios with grams as the leaf measurement, but then with mL as the water measurement it's time to bust out the calculator. :x

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by Tead Off » Jul 10th, '09, 01:31

Does anyone have a measuring tape showing tenths of an inch measurements? Some of the Japanese sellers list things for the American market such as 4.2 inches high x 3.8 inches diameter. Where do they get these figures from? What kind of tape are they using? I've never seen a tape measure in tenths of an inch. Do they exist?

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by twinofmunin » Jul 10th, '09, 03:36

Tead Off wrote:Does anyone have a measuring tape showing tenths of an inch measurements? Some of the Japanese sellers list things for the American market such as 4.2 inches high x 3.8 inches diameter. Where do they get these figures from? What kind of tape are they using? I've never seen a tape measure in tenths of an inch. Do they exist?
My guess would be that they have measurements in cm or mm and convert them to inches? I have never seen such a measuring implement.
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by Domn » Jul 10th, '09, 06:21

I would agree with twinofmunim, because on such measurements there is no need to use inches but you would be better with metric units.

There is much confusion with water measured in oz and tea in grams.
I use my trusty metric system and i make tea with 250ml (i think that is 8oz) cup but i use 200ml of water. So my ratio would be 4g per 200ml which is 4g per 6.5oz.

You would get good result with this ratio for every sencha, but as Chip said, that cant be the case with gyokuro!

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by clareandromeda » Jul 10th, '09, 06:22

Shopping for teaware also creates a problem...Yen to dollars, mL to Oz.... I actually noticed an error on Artistic Nippon in ounce conversions and corrected Toru, I felt like a super nerd. When I go to see family in Ireland I am totally at a loss in terms of distance...Km, and then they talk about weight in stone which is odd. Americans need to stop teaching inches, lbs etc to our children and go metric. It is the only thing that makes sense..

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by Oni » Jul 10th, '09, 06:51

Imperial measuring helps in everyday life, it is from those times when things were measured more empirically than scientifically, it is easier to remember for an everyday person, and metric measuring is more scientifical, you cannot have "nano inches" or "pico inches", but nanometer and picometer, nor would nano ounce make sense, but in cooking one tablespoon makes more sense to me than 15 ml.

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by Salsero » Jul 10th, '09, 10:34

Domn wrote: So my ratio would be 4g per 200ml which is 4g per 6.5oz.
A lot of people here seem to use around double that amount of tea.

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by Chip » Jul 10th, '09, 15:45

twinofmunin wrote:
Tead Off wrote:Does anyone have a measuring tape showing tenths of an inch measurements? Some of the Japanese sellers list things for the American market such as 4.2 inches high x 3.8 inches diameter. Where do they get these figures from? What kind of tape are they using? I've never seen a tape measure in tenths of an inch. Do they exist?
My guess would be that they have measurements in cm or mm and convert them to inches? I have never seen such a measuring implement.
Yes, the base of 10 for inches is derived not from measuring, but from a metric to inch conversion.

This can easily be converted to inches and 16ths.

Your 4.2" example. 4 + (16 X .2) = 4 3/16" rounded off
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by Tead Off » Jul 11th, '09, 01:13

Yes, Chip. My mobile phone can do the conversion. But, have you ever seen a measuring device with tenths of an inch markings? So, I cannot figure out why a seller would use this kind of measurement when it is so much easier to simply list as cm or inches. Many tapes have both measurements and is simple and easy for anyone to do the visual conversion. This is also a good way for American measurers to learn metric.

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by Domn » Jul 11th, '09, 06:11

Salsero wrote:
Domn wrote: So my ratio would be 4g per 200ml which is 4g per 6.5oz.
A lot of people here seem to use around double that amount of tea.
I will certainly put more leaves in my kyusu next time to see results.
Just one question for sencha drinkers. Do you use wooden scoops for tea or do you use ordinary tea spoons?
How much tea scoops/spoons do you add. (i dont have electrical scale :oops: )

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