AdamMY wrote:tenuki wrote:Isn't the generally accepted formula
( age ÷2 ) +7
?
So I can't drink any tea from the 80's!
Oh, you are talking about tea, nm...
Re: How old is too old
Oh, you are talking about tea, nm...
Re: How old is too old
Right now I'm workin it like: age ÷ 2 +5 and surprisingly mature enough! amazing!
Apr 10th, '10, 08:35
Vendor Member
Posts: 1518
Joined: Nov 13th, '09, 10:16
Location: Guilin, Guangxi China
Contact:
IPT
Re: How old is too old
That still makes me old. How about just age ÷2 and forget the +7?tenuki wrote:Isn't the generally accepted formula
( ) +7
?
Re: How old is too old
Great advice Chip on the storage and loved the pics I THINK WE ALL like pics of teaware tins cups etc- I WISH someone would put brewing step by step brewing videos of their sessions that would be coolChip wrote:My issue with the large canisters, as you use your tea, it is sitting in an ever emptying tin with more and more air.
I prefer to use a smaller sample tin placed inside (in this case, two different teas) ... like so:
If you buy 100 grams of sencha, around 50 grams fit into one of these sample tins (from Upton in this case). I will use the one tin in its entirety before ever opening the other one which is kept in reserve ... in another double lidded tin in cold storage. Utmost care must go into placing opened tea back into cold storage, prior to putting it in, and also when removing it from cold storage ... it must return to room temp before opening!
Two of these fit into a tin, but you have to buy the right sizes of sample tins and decorative tin.
KEN
Re: How old is too old
Speaking of the upton sample tins on this thread do you all think the sample tins from ADAGIO would work well for this!
Ken
Ken
Apr 11th, '10, 00:36
Posts: 20891
Joined: Apr 22nd, '06, 20:52
Scrolling: scrolling
Location: Back in the TeaCave atop Mt. Fuji
Re: How old is too old
Nope, they have seams, Uptons do not.
Also the lids/seals are far from perfect in the Adagio tins, the Uptons are really quite good
Also the lids/seals are far from perfect in the Adagio tins, the Uptons are really quite good
Apr 29th, '10, 17:27
Posts: 28
Joined: Apr 21st, '10, 00:59
Location: Red River Valley of the North
Re: How old is too old
When storing unopened bags of tea in the fridge, is it ok to just place the bag in there by itself? Or would it be wise to put the bag into another bag or two such as a ziploc or foil bag? Also, is it ok to store the unopened bags of tea in the kitchen fridge with food items? Or should the bag be stored in a designated tea fridge?
Thanks
Thanks
Apr 29th, '10, 18:44
Posts: 20891
Joined: Apr 22nd, '06, 20:52
Scrolling: scrolling
Location: Back in the TeaCave atop Mt. Fuji
Re: How old is too old
Sometimes I do place the vendor bag into another bag, sometimes I don't. Since I do use a seperate cube style fridge with nothing else in it, it is not so critical.
If your regular fridge has a lot of smelly food aromas, you are taking a big chance putting tea into it since tea leaves are aroma magnets.
If your regular fridge has a lot of smelly food aromas, you are taking a big chance putting tea into it since tea leaves are aroma magnets.
Apr 29th, '10, 20:19
Posts: 28
Joined: Apr 21st, '10, 00:59
Location: Red River Valley of the North
Re: How old is too old
Ya, I would assume storing tea with food items would be a risky move. I have never stored tea in the fridge before, but was looking into doing this with some extra bags of tea that I have.
How long can you store a package of unopened Japanese green tea at room temperature before freshness is compromised? Would refrigeration just be used for storage over a few months time?
How long can you store a package of unopened Japanese green tea at room temperature before freshness is compromised? Would refrigeration just be used for storage over a few months time?
Apr 29th, '10, 20:32
Posts: 20891
Joined: Apr 22nd, '06, 20:52
Scrolling: scrolling
Location: Back in the TeaCave atop Mt. Fuji
Re: How old is too old
That gets touchy ... it really depends on so many factors such as how fresh was it when packaged, how was it packaged, etc. Since you are into Japanese greens, I am going to assume you buy fresh and well packaged. You can figure up to a year, so they say. I do not really buy into that. But it will usually stay fairly well til the next harvest in most cases.
If you cold store, it can last well over a year usually. I had a few sencha that I was avoiding for around 2 years, they were remarkably good once I opened them.
If you cold store, it can last well over a year usually. I had a few sencha that I was avoiding for around 2 years, they were remarkably good once I opened them.
Apr 29th, '10, 20:55
Posts: 28
Joined: Apr 21st, '10, 00:59
Location: Red River Valley of the North
Re: How old is too old
That is pretty amazing what cold storage can do, Chip. Preserving sencha for two years definitely attests to the effectiveness of this. 
I usually do buy my greens fresh and well packaged from reputable Japanese online vendors. I know that the majority of the vendors nitro-flush their packaging for extra freshness protection. Are you aware of any vendors off hand that don't nitro-flush? I would guess that maybe there are some more "traditional" vendors that do not do this? I think I read somewhere that Ippodo doesn't nitro-flush.
I usually do buy my greens fresh and well packaged from reputable Japanese online vendors. I know that the majority of the vendors nitro-flush their packaging for extra freshness protection. Are you aware of any vendors off hand that don't nitro-flush? I would guess that maybe there are some more "traditional" vendors that do not do this? I think I read somewhere that Ippodo doesn't nitro-flush.
Apr 29th, '10, 21:03
Posts: 20891
Joined: Apr 22nd, '06, 20:52
Scrolling: scrolling
Location: Back in the TeaCave atop Mt. Fuji
Re: How old is too old
I don't think Ippodo and Den's nitro flush ...
The 2 year old sencha was a more or less accidental experiment. I was avoiding a few sencha for one reason or another, and around a month or so ago, I had no fresh sencha. So I started popping open these old ones. It was a pleasant surprise.
I am sure they were better when fresher, but they came in handy!
BTW, the TeaFridge is kept at 33*.
The 2 year old sencha was a more or less accidental experiment. I was avoiding a few sencha for one reason or another, and around a month or so ago, I had no fresh sencha. So I started popping open these old ones. It was a pleasant surprise.
I am sure they were better when fresher, but they came in handy!
BTW, the TeaFridge is kept at 33*.