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Re: Kyusu Kwestion

by Ambrose » Oct 25th, '10, 02:55

+1 on good gyokuro

I have a shigaraki kyusu and one of Petr Novaks shiboridashi glazed

The shigaraki will enhance it quite alot but also will round the high notes and mottle the other notes. I find I am liking gyokuro to be clear and honest and this to me is best in glazed ware.

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Re: Kyusu Kwestion

by Tead Off » Oct 25th, '10, 07:29

Ambrose wrote:+1 on good gyokuro

I have a shigaraki kyusu and one of Petr Novaks shiboridashi glazed

The shigaraki will enhance it quite alot but also will round the high notes and mottle the other notes. I find I am liking gyokuro to be clear and honest and this to me is best in glazed ware.
How can you have a dishonest tea? :D
When you brew something in any pot, isn't it the tea that reacts with the vessel? How can you say one is more honest than another? Is Gyokuro or any other tea supposed to be brewed in a glazed pot? Do you understand my point?

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Re: Kyusu Kwestion

by Ambrose » Oct 25th, '10, 17:32

:lol: haha I mean that glazed ware doesnt enhance. Leaving the brew natural, unaffected, pure, raw or as I called it honest. Dishonest tea :lol: that made me laugh :D Teas can be brewed in which ever wares you like. At the moment my personal preference happens to be a glazed shiboridashi until I get my unglazed one haha :mrgreen:

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Re: Kyusu Kwestion

by JBaymore » Oct 25th, '10, 22:59

Might one refer to a dishonest tea that tastes bad as a potential ..........


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...............Banko robber?


best,

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Re: Kyusu Kwestion

by AdamMY » Oct 25th, '10, 23:11

JBaymore wrote:Might one refer to a dishonest tea that tastes bad as a potential ..........


..............(wait for it).....................


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...............Banko robber?


best,

..................john :wink:

Hey he Tokoname (took our money).

Its a bit of a stretch but its what initially came to my mind.

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Re: Kyusu Kwestion

by Tead Off » Oct 26th, '10, 00:13

Ambrose wrote::lol: haha I mean that glazed ware doesnt enhance. Leaving the brew natural, unaffected, pure, raw or as I called it honest. Dishonest tea :lol: that made me laugh :D Teas can be brewed in which ever wares you like. At the moment my personal preference happens to be a glazed shiboridashi until I get my unglazed one haha :mrgreen:
This is an incorrect notion. Everything affects everything. What you are trying to call 'neutral' is an idea, not a reality, that you have read. The notion of 'neutrality' has no meaning in the world of tea. You may prefer one type of pot to another but none of them are neutral. You may experience an 'enhanced' aroma using porcelain, but, this cannot be called 'neutral'. You may experience a deeper(or different) flavor using red clay over porcelain but this doesn't make the porcelain or glazed kyusu, 'neutral'. All these notions are subjective, not realities.

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Re: Kyusu Kwestion

by Ambrose » Oct 26th, '10, 05:59

Tead Off wrote:
Ambrose wrote::lol: haha I mean that glazed ware doesnt enhance. Leaving the brew natural, unaffected, pure, raw or as I called it honest. Dishonest tea :lol: that made me laugh :D Teas can be brewed in which ever wares you like. At the moment my personal preference happens to be a glazed shiboridashi until I get my unglazed one haha :mrgreen:
This is an incorrect notion. Everything affects everything. What you are trying to call 'neutral' is an idea, not a reality, that you have read. The notion of 'neutrality' has no meaning in the world of tea. You may prefer one type of pot to another but none of them are neutral. You may experience an 'enhanced' aroma using porcelain, but, this cannot be called 'neutral'. You may experience a deeper(or different) flavor using red clay over porcelain but this doesn't make the porcelain or glazed kyusu, 'neutral'. All these notions are subjective, not realities.
I get what you mean but this is far too deep for me bro, tell me what is realities?

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Re: Kyusu Kwestion

by Chip » Oct 26th, '10, 09:37

:lol: Advanced TeaWare Science 301 ... meets Advanced TeaWare Philosophy 301. :lol:

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Re: Kyusu Kwestion

by Tead Off » Oct 26th, '10, 12:34

Ambrose wrote:
Tead Off wrote:
Ambrose wrote::lol: haha I mean that glazed ware doesnt enhance. Leaving the brew natural, unaffected, pure, raw or as I called it honest. Dishonest tea :lol: that made me laugh :D Teas can be brewed in which ever wares you like. At the moment my personal preference happens to be a glazed shiboridashi until I get my unglazed one haha :mrgreen:
This is an incorrect notion. Everything affects everything. What you are trying to call 'neutral' is an idea, not a reality, that you have read. The notion of 'neutrality' has no meaning in the world of tea. You may prefer one type of pot to another but none of them are neutral. You may experience an 'enhanced' aroma using porcelain, but, this cannot be called 'neutral'. You may experience a deeper(or different) flavor using red clay over porcelain but this doesn't make the porcelain or glazed kyusu, 'neutral'. All these notions are subjective, not realities.
I get what you mean but this is far too deep for me bro, tell me what is realities?
Not deep, just common sense.

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Re: Kyusu Kwestion

by Ambrose » Oct 26th, '10, 13:35

Tead Off wrote:
Ambrose wrote:
Tead Off wrote:
Ambrose wrote::lol: haha I mean that glazed ware doesnt enhance. Leaving the brew natural, unaffected, pure, raw or as I called it honest. Dishonest tea :lol: that made me laugh :D Teas can be brewed in which ever wares you like. At the moment my personal preference happens to be a glazed shiboridashi until I get my unglazed one haha :mrgreen:
This is an incorrect notion. Everything affects everything. What you are trying to call 'neutral' is an idea, not a reality, that you have read. The notion of 'neutrality' has no meaning in the world of tea. You may prefer one type of pot to another but none of them are neutral. You may experience an 'enhanced' aroma using porcelain, but, this cannot be called 'neutral'. You may experience a deeper(or different) flavor using red clay over porcelain but this doesn't make the porcelain or glazed kyusu, 'neutral'. All these notions are subjective, not realities.
I get what you mean but this is far too deep for me bro, tell me what is realities?
Not deep, just common sense.
yea I figured thats what you would say

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Re: Kyusu Kwestion

by Chip » Oct 26th, '10, 13:43

Surrender your Shigaraki-s and Banko-s at the door ... 8)

Looks like you are just going to have to agree to disagree ... :idea:

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Re: Kyusu Kwestion

by Tead Off » Oct 26th, '10, 22:19

Ambrose wrote:
Tead Off wrote:
Ambrose wrote:
Tead Off wrote:
Ambrose wrote::lol: haha I mean that glazed ware doesnt enhance. Leaving the brew natural, unaffected, pure, raw or as I called it honest. Dishonest tea :lol: that made me laugh :D Teas can be brewed in which ever wares you like. At the moment my personal preference happens to be a glazed shiboridashi until I get my unglazed one haha :mrgreen:
This is an incorrect notion. Everything affects everything. What you are trying to call 'neutral' is an idea, not a reality, that you have read. The notion of 'neutrality' has no meaning in the world of tea. You may prefer one type of pot to another but none of them are neutral. You may experience an 'enhanced' aroma using porcelain, but, this cannot be called 'neutral'. You may experience a deeper(or different) flavor using red clay over porcelain but this doesn't make the porcelain or glazed kyusu, 'neutral'. All these notions are subjective, not realities.
I get what you mean but this is far too deep for me bro, tell me what is realities?
Not deep, just common sense.
yea I figured thats what you would say
what is it you want me to say?

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Re: Kyusu Kwestion

by JBaymore » Oct 26th, '10, 22:38

Chip wrote:Surrender your Shigaraki-s and Banko-s at the door ... 8)

Looks like you are just going to have to agree to disagree ... :idea:

:mrgreen:

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Re: Kyusu Kwestion

by Chip » Oct 26th, '10, 23:45

JBaymore wrote:
Chip wrote:Surrender your Shigaraki-s and Banko-s at the door ... 8)

Looks like you are just going to have to agree to disagree ... :idea:

:mrgreen:
A welcome echo. :lol:

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