+1 on good gyokuro
I have a shigaraki kyusu and one of Petr Novaks shiboridashi glazed
The shigaraki will enhance it quite alot but also will round the high notes and mottle the other notes. I find I am liking gyokuro to be clear and honest and this to me is best in glazed ware.
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How can you have a dishonest tea?Ambrose wrote:+1 on good gyokuro
I have a shigaraki kyusu and one of Petr Novaks shiboridashi glazed
The shigaraki will enhance it quite alot but also will round the high notes and mottle the other notes. I find I am liking gyokuro to be clear and honest and this to me is best in glazed ware.

When you brew something in any pot, isn't it the tea that reacts with the vessel? How can you say one is more honest than another? Is Gyokuro or any other tea supposed to be brewed in a glazed pot? Do you understand my point?
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Oct 25th, '10, 22:59
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Might one refer to a dishonest tea that tastes bad as a potential ..........
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...............Banko robber?
best,
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...............Banko robber?
best,
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JBaymore wrote:Might one refer to a dishonest tea that tastes bad as a potential ..........
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...............Banko robber?
best,
..................john
Hey he Tokoname (took our money).
Its a bit of a stretch but its what initially came to my mind.
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This is an incorrect notion. Everything affects everything. What you are trying to call 'neutral' is an idea, not a reality, that you have read. The notion of 'neutrality' has no meaning in the world of tea. You may prefer one type of pot to another but none of them are neutral. You may experience an 'enhanced' aroma using porcelain, but, this cannot be called 'neutral'. You may experience a deeper(or different) flavor using red clay over porcelain but this doesn't make the porcelain or glazed kyusu, 'neutral'. All these notions are subjective, not realities.Ambrose wrote:haha I mean that glazed ware doesnt enhance. Leaving the brew natural, unaffected, pure, raw or as I called it honest. Dishonest tea
that made me laugh
Teas can be brewed in which ever wares you like. At the moment my personal preference happens to be a glazed shiboridashi until I get my unglazed one haha
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I get what you mean but this is far too deep for me bro, tell me what is realities?Tead Off wrote:This is an incorrect notion. Everything affects everything. What you are trying to call 'neutral' is an idea, not a reality, that you have read. The notion of 'neutrality' has no meaning in the world of tea. You may prefer one type of pot to another but none of them are neutral. You may experience an 'enhanced' aroma using porcelain, but, this cannot be called 'neutral'. You may experience a deeper(or different) flavor using red clay over porcelain but this doesn't make the porcelain or glazed kyusu, 'neutral'. All these notions are subjective, not realities.Ambrose wrote:haha I mean that glazed ware doesnt enhance. Leaving the brew natural, unaffected, pure, raw or as I called it honest. Dishonest tea
that made me laugh
Teas can be brewed in which ever wares you like. At the moment my personal preference happens to be a glazed shiboridashi until I get my unglazed one haha
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Not deep, just common sense.Ambrose wrote:I get what you mean but this is far too deep for me bro, tell me what is realities?Tead Off wrote:This is an incorrect notion. Everything affects everything. What you are trying to call 'neutral' is an idea, not a reality, that you have read. The notion of 'neutrality' has no meaning in the world of tea. You may prefer one type of pot to another but none of them are neutral. You may experience an 'enhanced' aroma using porcelain, but, this cannot be called 'neutral'. You may experience a deeper(or different) flavor using red clay over porcelain but this doesn't make the porcelain or glazed kyusu, 'neutral'. All these notions are subjective, not realities.Ambrose wrote:haha I mean that glazed ware doesnt enhance. Leaving the brew natural, unaffected, pure, raw or as I called it honest. Dishonest tea
that made me laugh
Teas can be brewed in which ever wares you like. At the moment my personal preference happens to be a glazed shiboridashi until I get my unglazed one haha
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yea I figured thats what you would sayTead Off wrote:Not deep, just common sense.Ambrose wrote:I get what you mean but this is far too deep for me bro, tell me what is realities?Tead Off wrote:This is an incorrect notion. Everything affects everything. What you are trying to call 'neutral' is an idea, not a reality, that you have read. The notion of 'neutrality' has no meaning in the world of tea. You may prefer one type of pot to another but none of them are neutral. You may experience an 'enhanced' aroma using porcelain, but, this cannot be called 'neutral'. You may experience a deeper(or different) flavor using red clay over porcelain but this doesn't make the porcelain or glazed kyusu, 'neutral'. All these notions are subjective, not realities.Ambrose wrote:haha I mean that glazed ware doesnt enhance. Leaving the brew natural, unaffected, pure, raw or as I called it honest. Dishonest tea
that made me laugh
Teas can be brewed in which ever wares you like. At the moment my personal preference happens to be a glazed shiboridashi until I get my unglazed one haha
Oct 26th, '10, 13:43
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Surrender your Shigaraki-s and Banko-s at the door ...
Looks like you are just going to have to agree to disagree ...


Looks like you are just going to have to agree to disagree ...


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what is it you want me to say?Ambrose wrote:yea I figured thats what you would sayTead Off wrote:Not deep, just common sense.Ambrose wrote:I get what you mean but this is far too deep for me bro, tell me what is realities?Tead Off wrote:This is an incorrect notion. Everything affects everything. What you are trying to call 'neutral' is an idea, not a reality, that you have read. The notion of 'neutrality' has no meaning in the world of tea. You may prefer one type of pot to another but none of them are neutral. You may experience an 'enhanced' aroma using porcelain, but, this cannot be called 'neutral'. You may experience a deeper(or different) flavor using red clay over porcelain but this doesn't make the porcelain or glazed kyusu, 'neutral'. All these notions are subjective, not realities.Ambrose wrote:haha I mean that glazed ware doesnt enhance. Leaving the brew natural, unaffected, pure, raw or as I called it honest. Dishonest tea
that made me laugh
Teas can be brewed in which ever wares you like. At the moment my personal preference happens to be a glazed shiboridashi until I get my unglazed one haha
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Chip wrote:Surrender your Shigaraki-s and Banko-s at the door ...![]()
Looks like you are just going to have to agree to disagree ...
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A welcome echo.JBaymore wrote:Chip wrote:Surrender your Shigaraki-s and Banko-s at the door ...![]()
Looks like you are just going to have to agree to disagree ...
