Tea Master Zhu Ni

[Poohblah]

Oh my.

I am amazed at your temerity.

You berate Serg for his aspirations and seem to think that you in Bankock know better,simply because he is in Siberia.

May I be the first to suggest that this is, in fact, not at all what actually happened?

oops, looks like I was ninja'd

[Chip]

I am amazed at your temerity.

Definition of TEMERITY

1
: unreasonable or foolhardy contempt of danger or opposition : rashness, recklessness
2
: a rash or reckless act

... or Teamerity ... sometimes referred to as temeriTea and in extreme cases, TeameriTea. foolhardy brewing techniques. dangerous, reckless brewing as in brewing with disregard of temperatures and in opposition of proven parameters.

leviTea ... a seemingly useless, attempt via joculariTea to calm a rising storm.

[In search of truth]

Tead off,I was simply trying to show that genuine items could be bought and some sellers can be trusted.

In order to show this I gave the reference no. on Ebay so that it could be checked out.

I don't expect any one on this site to bid,it will sell at whatever price it reaches and I will be happy with that.

Now,back to the question in hand $2.8K is a ridiculous price unless made by a genuine master potter.

Peace and goodwill to all.

[the_economist]

In addition,if you look at his last 'ancient' Yixing in his feedback you will see that it has a built in filter from circa 1970's.
Yet somebody paid $999 for it !!

The teapot doesn't have any type of filter, that's a removable metal filter.

Lovely 2 buck filters. I think I may need one.

So Insearchoftruth you consider yourself a knowledgeable and trustworthy vendor then, since you used yourself as an example of an outstanding seller with genuine wares?

[Chip]

In order to show this I gave the reference no. on Ebay so that it could be checked out.

Unfortunately, the ebay auction # had to be removed. As I suggested a few posts up, instead of posting auction numbers, post photos right in the topic for ease of reader viewing and to eliminate self promoting posts (whether this was the intent or not).

This is a fair rule and applied evenly.

[In search of truth]

Hi,just back in.

My pictures on here are too snakk.
They were in the body of the Ebay listing,very large and clear.

[Chip]

Hi,just back in.

My pictures on here are too snakk.
They were in the body of the Ebay listing,very large and clear.

How large do you need them? 640 pixels wide with a photohoster like photobucket uses the entire width of the posting frame for most readers.

Although attachment setting might be smaller, 500, not sure at the moment.

Regardless, this is plenty large to display teawares and there is nothing wrong with the quality.

Also regardless, you can choose whether to post a photo or not. But you cannot choose to post links, ebay auction numbers, and direct references to your ebay auctions.

[MarshalN]

For an 80s pot that price is outrageous

[wh&yel-apprentice]

Now,back to the question in hand $2.8K is a ridiculous price unless made by a genuine master potter.

For an 80s pot that price is outrageous

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This is a Grand Master Yixing teapot with top quality zhuni, in the 1980s. Such teapots are were ordered by Taiwanese merchants to be sold to collectors in Taiwan as dynasty teapots. Therefore, the name of the Master is not mentioned. (But since these are teapots made to fool collectors and even experts, they were made by masters). Nowadays, such teapots fetch around 5000-8000 USD at auctions in China. Most importantly, this teapot works very well with High mountain and Hung Shui Oolong

Thing is, Stephane has no way to verify/prove what he claims on that pot---his website listing only says "Tea Master" which is quite a bit different from saying it was made by the highest level "Grand Master", or that it's actually from the 80's... a Grand Master's reproduction, of the real thing??? And how would they(those auction houses trying to such such a replica?) verify for such an item Stephane claims would sell for 2x as much in a China auction???

If true, of course it's a bargain, whoo hoo!

Something like this one?
http://www.teapot-collection.com/collec ... cts_id=119
$5,100 replica?
[img]*www.teapot-collection.com/collection/im ... C01128.jpg[/img](aww, crap error message: Your images may only be up to 640 pixels wide...damn 704 pixels wide and it's not very big!...meh remove the asterisk I put in the url, C&P the link into a new browser window )
^not red or red/orange...but priced like an antique, for such refined simplicity!

Kinda makes Hojo's Sado/Nosaka, Shimizu Ken's pots seem like a steal of the century/dynasty If only Hojo would try to get more of them in stock, they're always sold out!!!

Nosaka clay beats Zhuni clay?

Only person's opinion here on TC I *might* be inclined to entertain would be Charles (aka 'chrl42').

[Chip]

... eh hem, all you have to do is save it to your computer or to your photohoster and resize it ...

[In search of truth]

This is the current state of the Yixing market in China.

The results are staggering.

http://www.polypm.com.cn/english/result ... =PZ2005671

[chrl42]

I wonder what grand master defines, if it means as 'Da Shi Ji', then the explanation is no way to be. Grand masters hid their name making pots, only during the CR period, after the CR came grand masters' hayday, their stuffs went to HK and Taiwan and the price already high as I can't afford. And they were not Zhuni.

Grand masters such as Gu Jingzhou, Wang Yinchun, Zhu Kexin etc did make Zhuni pots in 30's, when they were still young..but those pots are so rare.

In 90's Zhuni masters such as Xu Jingen, Zhu Qinyong did make nameless Zhuni but they are not grand masters but Zhuni masters. They did such things because they had no relations with Factory-1 hence less fame and authority and because its Zhuni.

Zhuni is regarded as an independent category, it has its own style of making and understanding, it requires less time to make and styles are limited, yet needs perfect skills. Even to this day many Zhuni masters hid their name making, unlike Zini, Zhuni shuiping pots are available to be made many in a day by hand-making. Because they are mostly small and simple, famous Zhuni masters' pots price cannot be comparable to Grand master or famed High-levels.

[Serg]

This is the current state of the Yixing market in China.

The results are staggering.

The auction prices seem unreal The most interesting thing is I don't even like many of presented styles. If I met some of those pots on ebay I would probably say they must be fake I really don't understand Yixing... But I guess Picasso is not for everyone too The difference is there are not so many exact copies of Picasso's paintings in the market. And in Yixing market they copied every famous pot so many times...

Also, do anybody actually brew tea with such an expensive pots? or do they keep them for display purpose only?

p.s.
Chrl42, thank you very very much for the knowledge you share with us. It's priceless.

[bagua7]

In 90's Zhuni masters such as Xu Jingen, Zhu Qinyong did make nameless Zhuni but they are not grand masters but Zhuni masters. They did such things because they had no relations with Factory-1 hence less fame and authority and because its Zhuni.

Whoa! So this means that there are hidden treasures out there that can be purchased for a ridiculously low price knowing that they could be worth over a thousand, right?

If I met some of those pots on ebay I would probably say they must be fake I really don't understand Yixing...

Well, this is funny:

http://www.polypm.com.cn/english/pmwp71 ... 5002730057

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chinese-Yixing- ... 3cc013b54d



Neither do I, I don't think that even the Chinese themselves understand how complex Yixing is. An online vendor located in Dianshu told me this not long ago.

p.s.
Chrl42, thank you very very much for the knowledge you share with us. It's priceless.

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