Hello teachatters, this is my first posting.
I found this yixing teapot at a thrift shop and fell in love with it. Knowing nothing about yixing ceramics, I found your teachat while searching for some information on it. Now I have already spent quite a few hours here, reading, looking and admiring.
I would be grateful if you could give me some opinion on it, it's age and the meaning of the chop marks.
Oups, I can only show 3 pictures here?
The teapot has 2 chop seals in the lid, one at the handle and one at the bottom. Maybe I can show them in a second post?
Re: Looking for information about this Yixing teapot
Here are the chop marks of the handle and the lid.
Many thanks, I am looking forward to your answers.
Many thanks, I am looking forward to your answers.
Re: Looking for information about this Yixing teapot
Heini clay, I suppose.
There was a thread on this clay that can give you some insight about your query, in case you missed it:
Heini...Another Quest
There was a thread on this clay that can give you some insight about your query, in case you missed it:
Heini...Another Quest
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Thanks for the link, bagua7!
You think this is heini clay? Since this teapot does not look very old, it has never been used before, it is likely dyed with manganese? (From what I read in the link you posted)
The colour is not black, the clay is dark brown. The colour on the third picture (bottom) resembles best. I assumed it was zini.
It is not porous, so likely high fired. The sound is rather high and porcelain like, not dull. The outside feels quite smooth, inside the lid one feels a little more claylike structure.
Someone told me the chop on the bottom means Zhongguo Yixing and dated it to the 90s. I can't relate the seal to the other stamps I have seen, especially not to the stamps of factory 1, which I thought meant Zhongguo Yixing (maybe I am wrong). Do you have any opinions on the seal?
You think this is heini clay? Since this teapot does not look very old, it has never been used before, it is likely dyed with manganese? (From what I read in the link you posted)
The colour is not black, the clay is dark brown. The colour on the third picture (bottom) resembles best. I assumed it was zini.
It is not porous, so likely high fired. The sound is rather high and porcelain like, not dull. The outside feels quite smooth, inside the lid one feels a little more claylike structure.
Someone told me the chop on the bottom means Zhongguo Yixing and dated it to the 90s. I can't relate the seal to the other stamps I have seen, especially not to the stamps of factory 1, which I thought meant Zhongguo Yixing (maybe I am wrong). Do you have any opinions on the seal?
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It is hard to judge by looking at your pics, that's why I said: I suppose; in other words, I am not 100% sure.
How does your pot compare to the following one?
Heini pot
Much the same or different?
That's all I can say, please wait for more experienced users to chime in so they can give a more accurate opinion.
How does your pot compare to the following one?
Heini pot
Much the same or different?
That's all I can say, please wait for more experienced users to chime in so they can give a more accurate opinion.
Re: Looking for information about this Yixing teapot
Perhaps this small tidbits is of an interest for you (pardon me if or you have already known)
The cloud like pattern around the teapot body and around the knob lid is what supposed to be RuYi cloud pattern, an auspicious symbol often used in chinese arts.
Ru Yi literaly means "as you wish"
The cloud like pattern around the teapot body and around the knob lid is what supposed to be RuYi cloud pattern, an auspicious symbol often used in chinese arts.
Ru Yi literaly means "as you wish"
Re: Looking for information about this Yixing teapot
Bagua7, the colour is not as dark as the heini teapot in your link.
I tried to take another photograph as to put it in relation to other colours. Also another picture of the bottom seal. I hope it shows the characters in the right direction. Davidducklings, thanks for letting me know the meaning of the pattern! I have read in this forum that the decoration around the shoulder was called Ru Yi pattern. But I did not know the pattern on the lid is part of it. And I did not know, what it means. I really like the idea that it means "as you wish"
Someone in this forum showed a copy of "Gu JingZhou's Yun Jian Ru Yi Hu", which has 3 little feet at the bottom and no rim. So maybe my teapot is a copy of a variation of that theme?
I tried to take another photograph as to put it in relation to other colours. Also another picture of the bottom seal. I hope it shows the characters in the right direction. Davidducklings, thanks for letting me know the meaning of the pattern! I have read in this forum that the decoration around the shoulder was called Ru Yi pattern. But I did not know the pattern on the lid is part of it. And I did not know, what it means. I really like the idea that it means "as you wish"

Someone in this forum showed a copy of "Gu JingZhou's Yun Jian Ru Yi Hu", which has 3 little feet at the bottom and no rim. So maybe my teapot is a copy of a variation of that theme?
Re: Looking for information about this Yixing teapot
zini high fired becomes that color
btw nice tea platter. the platter's probably older than the pot if i'm not wrong
btw nice tea platter. the platter's probably older than the pot if i'm not wrong

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cant see the handle seal properly.raoula wrote:Hello teachatters, this is my first posting.
I found this yixing teapot at a thrift shop and fell in love with it. Knowing nothing about yixing ceramics, I found your teachat while searching for some information on it. Now I have already spent quite a few hours here, reading, looking and admiring.
I would be grateful if you could give me some opinion on it, it's age and the meaning of the chop marks.
Oups, I can only show 3 pictures here?
The teapot has 2 chop seals in the lid, one at the handle and one at the bottom. Maybe I can show them in a second post?
bottom round seal says its made by Cheng Peng. (Cheng Peng Zhi Tao)
under the lid, its his name still, Cheng Peng.
pot type is Yun Jian Ruyi style, probably inspired from chu kexin version.
material looks like zini, higher fired so its a bit darker (does the pot have a metallic ring and low porosity?). possibly a 90s and later product. you might want to have one of the forum clay experts to give you the confirmation of the age via the clay type.
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Thank you very much, kyarazen.
Yes, I think so too, the platter is older. Someone here from the museum told me it was new, but I guess he meant "new" in the art-historical context. He explained the seal means Tangdu ceramic production cooperative. I looked for it on google and it seems this cooperative was in existance before factory 1. I guess the plate was made in the 50s? But I could not find much more. And I think there is no signature of the artist to find on it, even though the seal has a lot of characters.
Great, you did translate it! Now I have a lot to look up in the internet. Great and many thanks!
Here is another picture of the handle.
Yes, I think so too, the platter is older. Someone here from the museum told me it was new, but I guess he meant "new" in the art-historical context. He explained the seal means Tangdu ceramic production cooperative. I looked for it on google and it seems this cooperative was in existance before factory 1. I guess the plate was made in the 50s? But I could not find much more. And I think there is no signature of the artist to find on it, even though the seal has a lot of characters.
Great, you did translate it! Now I have a lot to look up in the internet. Great and many thanks!
Here is another picture of the handle.
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plate probably closer to 80s.raoula wrote:Thank you very much, kyarazen.
Yes, I think so too, the platter is older. Someone here from the museum told me it was new, but I guess he meant "new" in the art-historical context. He explained the seal means Tangdu ceramic production cooperative. I looked for it on google and it seems this cooperative was in existance before factory 1. I guess the plate was made in the 50s? But I could not find much more. And I think there is no signature of the artist to find on it, even though the seal has a lot of characters.
Great, you did translate it! Now I have a lot to look up in the internet. Great and many thanks!
Here is another picture of the handle.
the word under the handle is 顾. (no idea if its his surname, or someone else's)
name of person is 程鹏 (based on lid seal and pot bottom seal)
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Thank you for the chinese characters, kyarazen! With them I was able to find this website
http://gys.zisha.com/author/catalog/1103.shtml
It might be him, a pity I could not find any pictures of his works.
This guy is not so old what confirms neither is the teapot
Maybe the dish is from the 80s, I don't know. I can't judge it by the artistic style, because I have not seen enough Yixing items. I understood the Tangdu Pottery Producers Cooperative closed down around 1955 but very likely I got that wrong.
http://gys.zisha.com/author/catalog/1103.shtml
It might be him, a pity I could not find any pictures of his works.
This guy is not so old what confirms neither is the teapot

Maybe the dish is from the 80s, I don't know. I can't judge it by the artistic style, because I have not seen enough Yixing items. I understood the Tangdu Pottery Producers Cooperative closed down around 1955 but very likely I got that wrong.