Is there one teapot suitable for most chinese tea?

[gunbuster363]

Sadly I would not trust them, not in my life.

You may had went to Hong Kong or China once or several times, but I have been living in a Chinese society for my whole life. In regards of the Chinese topic, I would not discuss it here.

I am afraid you have a wrong understanding towards the Chinese today and I would like to say that the Chinese who developed tea a thousand years ago are not the Chinese we are facing now. They are not of the same race and you need to read the history book. Not every Chinese - I mean 1.3 billions of people - know very well about tea. I admit there are some amazing tea masters but they would not sell you good tea easily.

Despite all said above, I think there ARE Hongkongers ( not Chinese ) who knows about tea in Hong Kong and it may take me some time to seek them out. Also they would not sell you good tea easily.

Sometimes it is easier to just buy random tea/teapot over the internet and see if they are good.

And i may suggest that you do not mistake me for a sinophile westerner sitting in a NY or London loft. As you may see from my location - Bangkok. And i am now well into my third decade living in Asia, which has given me quite a good understanding of humanity, the different cultures, and the utter futility of bringing race into the equation (and, to be honest, given that my son is half Chinese - i do find some of your comments quite offensive in a rather personal way, and not just to be politically/sociologically/anthropologically/historically correct).

Anyhow, who says that it should be easy to approach tea masters? If you have a serious interest they will help you along. And the experience will more more than rewarding. But that needs an attitude that is a bit more, lets say, conductive...

Why on earth, by the way, do you ask for a pot to drink tea from a country that you seem to detest, whose people you distrust?

The Chinese tea you buy over an internet store has been grown and planted in China the same way tea you would buy in a shop in Hong Kong.

Does the fact that you are living in Bangkok mean that you must be right about the Chinese? Why don't you check my location? I've been here for my whole life.

If the tea masters are so mysterious in their own way, maybe they should not keep their tea to themselves. Tea are not their invention. It's the invention of their ancestors a thousand years ago.

And now I regret ordering some different Chinese tea from the shop. Using your logic, all the good tea are only in the hands of tea masters and not elsewhere, and rest of the tea are ALL inferior product. You must get access to the tea masters before you could enjoy a good cup of tea.

You see? That's what I said in the beginning of the post. They are not going to give you the good stuff. And now you say they are nice person because you live in Bangkok and you understand about culture.

I felt deeply offended.

And it seems you are the tea master.

[gunbuster363]

I might have overreacted over the Chinese matter.

I still have bias over the pesticides level in Chinese tea, but I do not want to give up Chinese tea.

This is what I think: if the shop could list their product one by one and detailed the origin, year, species, brew temperature and duration, then I would assume the owner have some understanding over what he is buying and he would give me more confidence.

The members of this forum have already tried many online tea shop. There are positive and negative reviews available right now. On the other hand, I don't know where are the local tea masters and he might not bother to waste his time, explaining each tea to me. Also, no one have any experience dealing with them either.

I ordered from Jing last week and have been waiting for the tea to arrive.

[theredbaron]

I might have overreacted over the Chinese matter.

I still have bias over the pesticides level in Chinese tea, but I do not want to give up Chinese tea.

This is what I think: if the shop could list their product one by one and detailed the origin, year, species, brew temperature and duration, then I would assume the owner have some understanding over what he is buying and he would give me more confidence.

The members of this forum have already tried many online tea shop. There are positive and negative reviews available right now. On the other hand, I don't know where are the local tea masters and he might not bother to waste his time, explaining each tea to me. Also, no one have any experience dealing with them either.

I ordered from Jing last week and have been waiting for the tea to arrive.

I have a lot of problems with what most governments of most countries are doing. That doesn't mean though that i have to dislike people that have been born with this or the other citizenship, or with whatever ethnicity. If i would go through the world thinking like that very soon i would have no friends at all anymore. I would have to despise myself as well, given that a lot of what my government does i do not agree with.

I think you have a complete misunderstanding on the issue of "tea master". They are not secretive clubs forbidden to outsiders. I have already posted here - on this forum there are several very knowledgeable tea people from Hong Kong, who would/could introduce you to tea circles. Well, if they would still want to after that display of anti Chinese sentiments by you. Because, to be blunt: people do have a tendency to get offended by racist comments.

And no, i am no tea master. I just like to drink Chinese tea, and have done so for more or less 25 years.
You want a shop to list "brew temperature and duration"? How long is a piece of string? There are so many methods to drink tea that listing those is quite useless. You will have to find your own way. As to origin and year - most good tea shops do that, or will tell you when you ask.

[Tead Off]

Lots of HK Chinese really have it in for the mainlanders. Many reasons for this, but when it comes to tea, everyone can sit together and enjoy.

For some reason, you have made some wrong assumptions about finding good tea and thinking that tea people are hiding from you. It is up to you to go out and talk to the existing shops, which there are many, and begin to drink and learn how to differentiate between the teas and their grades. Great tea is there to be had. None of us started out drinking great tea unless you were born into a household where tea was held in high regard and the normal junk shui xian and bolay cha were only drunk at restaurants. You have to learn what a good tea is first. If you know, you would not make the statements you made. This a process of learning. Plenty of great tea is sold over the internet. You have to make the effort to learn. Plenty of sites with great information about how to brew, etc. The Teahong site has a blog with lots of useful information. It's right in your backyard and you are complaining you can't find anything. Come to Bangkok and you will have a right to complain about the lack of good teas to find. It is very limited here.

[gunbuster363]

Agree to disagree over all the Chinese people comments.

[drinking_teas]

why not ask other TeaChat users living in HK where to get the best tea?

[gunbuster363]

Lots of HK Chinese really have it in for the mainlanders. Many reasons for this, but when it comes to tea, everyone can sit together and enjoy.

For some reason, you have made some wrong assumptions about finding good tea and thinking that tea people are hiding from you. It is up to you to go out and talk to the existing shops, which there are many, and begin to drink and learn how to differentiate between the teas and their grades. Great tea is there to be had. None of us started out drinking great tea unless you were born into a household where tea was held in high regard and the normal junk shui xian and bolay cha were only drunk at restaurants. You have to learn what a good tea is first. If you know, you would not make the statements you made. This a process of learning. Plenty of great tea is sold over the internet. You have to make the effort to learn. Plenty of sites with great information about how to brew, etc. The Teahong site has a blog with lots of useful information. It's right in your backyard and you are complaining you can't find anything. Come to Bangkok and you will have a right to complain about the lack of good teas to find. It is very limited here.

I think you misunderstood. It is Mr Red Baron who stated that I should seek out local stores in Hong Kong. I am perfectly comfortable with online stores.

Thank you for the information about TeaHong.

[wert]

Japan = radiation? or is it perfectly safe?

[gunbuster363]

Japan = radiation? or is it perfectly safe?

Yes it is perfectly safe. Ask Kevin.

[Evan Draper]

I am looking for a teapot which is suitable for most chinese tea

[bagua7]

Pretty much a duanni pot would do that job since zhuni ones don't brew good green tea.

Cheers!

Come to Bangkok and you will have a right to complain about the lack of good teas to find. It is very limited here.

Come to Brisbane and you'll find no tea at all. Online baby...ONLINE.

[chrl42]

Sadly I would not trust them, not in my life.

You may had went to Hong Kong or China once or several times, but I have been living in a Chinese society for my whole life. In regards of the Chinese topic, I would not discuss it here.

I am afraid you have a wrong understanding towards the Chinese today and I would like to say that the Chinese who developed tea a thousand years ago are not the Chinese we are facing now. They are not of the same race and you need to read the history book. Not every Chinese - I mean 1.3 billions of people - know very well about tea. I admit there are some amazing tea masters but they would not sell you good tea easily.

Oh yeah? then who are the Chinese we are facing today?

[Bok]

Like others said before me, seems really sad that someone so close to the source of great tea feels he needs to rely on western resellers…

Why don’t you pop over to Taiwan, merely a two hours flight, and buy a years worth of tea there? There are many good adresses there and people are generally very friendly and helpful.

Of course not everyone is honest and some will try to rip you off but I am sure members of this forum can suggest good adresses. I for one can recommend a good teashop in Tainan if you ever happen to pass by.

The price will be a fraction of what you can get online, you can taste the tea beforehand by yourself. And a lot of the best teas from Taiwan do not make it out of the country!

And of course a teamaster will not give their best tea to every random person which comes along… trust has to be earned! Even in the tea shops they often “test” you first to see how much you know about tea before they give you better tea to try. Which is fair enough, one does not want to through pearls to the pigs

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