Tea perfectionist ?

[bonescwa]

Chill. No offense, man.

I just cited some of my past observation that's it. Not like my comment should be weighed as an expert or authority. We are more free of talk cos we are not 'famed'.


Except for my music days in the US and europe, most of my life was spent in asia..and there is not so much history or events regarding racial topic here..so if I didn't understand the situation in your area, I aplogize..the Chinese and Koreans are usually very welcoming foreigners...we look at foreigners usually with very curious and happy eyes...even if there is a negative one, no KKK or brutal treatment...now that's scary.

It's a cultural misunderstanding. Asians have too much common sense to have been taken by radical political correctness, while most Europeans and Americans are the first to cry racism whenever there is any difference acknowledged between two races or ethnicities as entire groups. They somehow take that to mean you are generalizing the observed difference to every individual member of that racial group.

[hopeofdawn]

Huh. I wonder if the various Asian ethnic and religious minorities (I'm speaking of the entire region, not just China) would agree with you on how well they're treated by the majority cultures?

Racism--including the idea of 'races' of people, which in and of itself is an artificial construct--is everywhere. I don't think anyone's immune.

[bonescwa]

Huh. I wonder if the various Asian ethnic and religious minorities (I'm speaking of the entire region, not just China) would agree with you on how well they're treated by the majority cultures?

Racism--including the idea of 'races' of people, which in and of itself is an artificial construct--is everywhere. I don't think anyone's immune.

But we are talking about a simple observation: black people are more well known for jazz improvisation, and Asians are more well known for technical music ability. Nobody is saying that no Asians are good at jazz, or that no blacks are good at classical technical playing. How noticing an innocuous, historically supported difference between two races/cultures is the same type of "racism" that supports abuse of minorities is beyond me. It's like acknowledging that race even exists is grounds for being called a racist now.

[hopeofdawn]

But we are talking about a simple observation: black people are more well known for jazz improvisation, and Asians are more well known for technical music ability. Nobody is saying that no Asians are good at jazz, or that no blacks are good at classical technical playing. How noticing an innocuous, historically supported difference between two races/cultures is the same type of "racism" that supports abuse of minorities is beyond me. It's like acknowledging that race even exists is grounds for being called a racist now.

As I'm sure any scientist can tell you, 'simple observation' can be tainted by the biases of the observer. And I think your statement re: black people (which black people? African-Americans? British? African--and if so, which country? West Indian? The vast majority of all these people are somehow improvisational geniuses simply due to the color of their skin?) and Asians (really? A continent as vast and diverse as Asia, plus the subcontinent and assorted islands around it, and yet somehow the majority of people on it somehow all naturally excel at technical musical skills? And which technical skills are we talking about here? Western classical music? Classical Chinese? Japanese?) simply proves my points about racism and bias.

[Chip]

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[kyarazen]

i'm a tea perfectionist............................



i ensure there are 7 x 7 = 49 leaves in a pot that is exactly 100.00ml.
from a height of 15.05 centimetres water is poured at a rate of 1 litre per minute at a temperature of 99.7 degrees celsius, with the steeping time of 36.44seconds for the first steep, 48.65 for the second steep. the tea is dispensed from a height of 5 centimetres into a cup that is 45 grams of porcelain that is kept at room temperature of 25.00 celsius, and elution is carried out at a rate of 2 litres per minute. the tea has to be be consumed within the next 47.8 seconds if not it would have oxidized by air exposure by a degree of 0.0003%










just kidding.

perfection is not a target. once you have reached perfection, you will start to decay from there. it is the simple way of "tao". at the most "yang point" is when the yin will start to rise.

[thirst]

Now back to the teachat, in asia, many people don't use a timer or a scale when brewing tea. For me, many other options are awaiting, besides a scale. Like the temperature of room, thickness of a pot, firing temp of teawares, condition of tea leaves, if to count, then they have to be measured along, and the time and temperature should differ according to them. In this case, those scales rather bother that's just my case.

I think I’m not getting across what I mean very well

My question wasn’t really about using a stopwatch or other measuring instruments (disregard them for a moment), it was more that it seems like a lot of people here just know when the time is right to decant, without even counting in their head or counting their breaths to whatever roughly estimated number they would find appropriate at that very moment and which would take into consideration the things you listed – and the possibility surprised me. Well, perhaps that’s just me and it’s not surprising at all

[mcrdotcom]

I would use the scales, thermometer and timer when brewing Japanese green tea, simply because I don't have enough experience and it's a bit of a monster when wrong.

With pretty much all Chinese tea bar an official blog review I will not use anything other than intuition! (If it's green tea again, I may use a thermometer at best). I find I don't even count, I just pour the water and wait until it feels done... Usually I would have a rough timescale for a particular type of tea and I'd usually attempt to follow that with intuition on the first steep, and depending on the result I'll just sit longer or shorter on the second etc...

It makes it all that much easier and more relaxing when you get the hang of it, less cleaning and messing around

[TeamanRS125]

I like banjo music and I got a beard...