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Chasen - Chashaku advice needed
I want to start getting a bit into drinking matcha (not ceremonial, just casual drinking). I just bought today a nice and very reasonably priced Chawan on the auction house (i was the only bidder, but i like it
). Now of course i need some of the other equipment. My question is, are the cheaper, most likely Chinese made Chasen and Chashaku for the beginning alright to use, or is there a noticeable difference to the more expensive Japanese made ones? I might want to spend a bit more money on a mid to high grade matcha itself (i don't think for the first tries a top quality matcha is suitable, at least not as long as i have not experimented with the technical aspects of preparing it.

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Sep 25th, '14, 13:35
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Re: Chasen - Chashaku advice needed
From my experience, the Chinese Chasen have difficulty whipping up the matcha foam.
You need to realize the difference between a Chinese made chasen and one from Japan. The Japanese one are stronger thus could easily create matcha foam. If you wouldl like enjoy the process of making matcha, I would definitely recommend buying a Japanese chasen.
You need to realize the difference between a Chinese made chasen and one from Japan. The Japanese one are stronger thus could easily create matcha foam. If you wouldl like enjoy the process of making matcha, I would definitely recommend buying a Japanese chasen.
Sep 26th, '14, 07:59
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Re: Chasen - Chashaku advice needed
Thanks a lot.
I have ordered this one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/100-Pondate-Whi ... 0414608348
it says that it's from Japan, but i have my doubts. Nevertheless, it's cheap, and will have to do for the beginning. Could you recommend me a good Chasen, which i may buy later on?
I have ordered this one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/100-Pondate-Whi ... 0414608348
it says that it's from Japan, but i have my doubts. Nevertheless, it's cheap, and will have to do for the beginning. Could you recommend me a good Chasen, which i may buy later on?
It's expensive, but one of the best I've used for usucha.
http://www.yuuki-cha.com/teaware/matcha ... kyu-chasen
http://www.yuuki-cha.com/teaware/matcha ... kyu-chasen
Re: Chasen - Chashaku advice needed
http://www.kyoto-teramachi.or.jp/horaido/greentea.htm
redbaron,
Take a look at Horaido's shop. Click on "Catalog of utensils." Any tea shop you can find on line will have a selection. I am not 100% certain but every chasen case that has a simple label on it with a few characters, like yours, I believe is from China. Why DTH says product of Japan I question. Those I have ordered and those I have bought in Japan that are made in Japan have more labels and things written on them. Plus the cost, under about $20 is too inexpensive to be made in Japan. My only experience with a Chinese chasen was it didn't last very long. Otherwise it made fine matcha. I made the switch for the cost factor, higher up front but used much longer. And I do have my questions of bamboo from China.
That is also a very nice, subtle chawan. Interesting only you made a bid. Enjoy it!
redbaron,
Take a look at Horaido's shop. Click on "Catalog of utensils." Any tea shop you can find on line will have a selection. I am not 100% certain but every chasen case that has a simple label on it with a few characters, like yours, I believe is from China. Why DTH says product of Japan I question. Those I have ordered and those I have bought in Japan that are made in Japan have more labels and things written on them. Plus the cost, under about $20 is too inexpensive to be made in Japan. My only experience with a Chinese chasen was it didn't last very long. Otherwise it made fine matcha. I made the switch for the cost factor, higher up front but used much longer. And I do have my questions of bamboo from China.
That is also a very nice, subtle chawan. Interesting only you made a bid. Enjoy it!
Sep 27th, '14, 22:31
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Peacock wrote:It's expensive, but one of the best I've used for usucha.
http://www.yuuki-cha.com/teaware/matcha ... kyu-chasen
Nice!
I have bookmarked it straight away
Sep 27th, '14, 23:11
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Re: Chasen - Chashaku advice needed
rdl wrote:http://www.kyoto-teramachi.or.jp/horaido/greentea.htm
redbaron,
Take a look at Horaido's shop. Click on "Catalog of utensils." Any tea shop you can find on line will have a selection. I am not 100% certain but every chasen case that has a simple label on it with a few characters, like yours, I believe is from China. Why DTH says product of Japan I question. Those I have ordered and those I have bought in Japan that are made in Japan have more labels and things written on them. Plus the cost, under about $20 is too inexpensive to be made in Japan. My only experience with a Chinese chasen was it didn't last very long. Otherwise it made fine matcha. I made the switch for the cost factor, higher up front but used much longer. And I do have my questions of bamboo from China.
That is also a very nice, subtle chawan. Interesting only you made a bid. Enjoy it!
Thanks.
Cost factor always plays a role

I guess i will improve things as i go along, bit by bit. The basic set i have ordered, spread out from several sellers, set me back around 60 US$ including a mid range Matcha to start off with.
The auction house is strange, sometimes one still can get things really cheap. I have watched quite a few Chawan i liked, just to see them climb beyond my self set limits. This one fortunately spoke to me but nobody else. I guess it's because the seller stated that he didn't know the name of the potter, but i didn't want to buy a collector's piece anyhow, just a nice bowl to use. And if it turns out not as nice as in the pictures, it didn't break my wallet - just 25 US$.
Re: Chasen - Chashaku advice needed
I am sure it will be as nice as the photo indicates. I would have thought such a chawan would have gotten a few bids - so it seems it was just meant for you.theredbaron wrote:And if it turns out not as nice as in the pictures, it didn't break my wallet - just 25 US$.
Sep 28th, '14, 00:06
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Re: Chasen - Chashaku advice needed
rdl wrote:I am sure it will be as nice as the photo indicates. I would have thought such a chawan would have gotten a few bids - so it seems it was just meant for you.theredbaron wrote:And if it turns out not as nice as in the pictures, it didn't break my wallet - just 25 US$.
In the "Today's MatchaWan" topic i posted two more pics ( http://www.teachat.com/viewtopic.php?f= ... start=1800 ). I was also quite surprised that nobody else placed a bit and didn't keep my hopes up. But i don't complain

Chasen - Chashaku advice needed
I've used one of those for the past year or so, and find it a great chasen. I love the narrow handle and the straight ends don't break as easily.Peacock wrote:It's expensive, but one of the best I've used for usucha.
http://www.yuuki-cha.com/teaware/matcha ... kyu-chasen