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The Ren Fu Collection excavations information/research

by heliospace » Dec 10th, '14, 15:32

Is anyone here following the "Ren Fu Collection?" shenanigans? They've been excavating and researching something in the realm of 4,000 teapots for the past 30 years? Anyone with any more knowledge of what's going on? I believe a book publication is in the workings, but otherwise, I'd like to know more about what exactly they are doing and what ramifications the old zishahu market will face upon their supposed knowledge and information being published...?

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Re: The Ren Fu Collection excavations information/research

by kyarazen » Dec 10th, '14, 20:40

heliospace wrote:Is anyone here following the "Ren Fu Collection?" shenanigans? They've been excavating and researching something in the realm of 4,000 teapots for the past 30 years? Anyone with any more knowledge of what's going on? I believe a book publication is in the workings, but otherwise, I'd like to know more about what exactly they are doing and what ramifications the old zishahu market will face upon their supposed knowledge and information being published...?

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i'll dread the day he comes here to post.. all in CAPSLOCKS...
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Re: The Ren Fu Collection excavations information/research

by chrl42 » Dec 10th, '14, 21:27

No shenanigans.

He's fine and dedicated in his work, just no bargains. :D

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Re: The Ren Fu Collection excavations information/research

by kyarazen » Dec 10th, '14, 22:10

chrl42 wrote:No shenanigans.

He's fine and dedicated in his work, just no bargains. :D
:D so we have a happy customer here

the last time you mentioned on buying a zhuni from malaysia immediately RF came to mind.

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Re: The Ren Fu Collection excavations information/research

by chrl42 » Dec 10th, '14, 22:12

kyarazen wrote:
chrl42 wrote:No shenanigans.

He's fine and dedicated in his work, just no bargains. :D
:D so we have a happy customer here

the last time you mentioned on buying a zhuni from malaysia immediately RF came to mind.
Nice guess, but

Ren Fu doesn't deal early-ROC stuffs :mrgreen: (go earlier)

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Re: The Ren Fu Collection excavations information/research

by puyuan » Dec 10th, '14, 23:16

I was waiting for a thread like this... That's one of the strangest pages I've ever stumbled upon the internet. :mrgreen:

At the same time, the snippets of information are all interesting, though I lack any expertise to assess them. And I would be far more surprised if there /weren't/ schemes exactly like the ones he denounces than otherwise.

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Re: The Ren Fu Collection excavations information/research

by chrl42 » Dec 10th, '14, 23:31

puyuan wrote:I was waiting for a thread like this... That's one of the strangest pages I've ever stumbled upon the internet. :mrgreen:

At the same time, the snippets of information are all interesting, though I lack any expertise to assess them. And I would be far more surprised if there /weren't/ schemes exactly like the ones he denounces than otherwise.
It's more like he only sells cracked or B-rated stuffs on public..I don't know if he'd give out better stuffs if I visit Malaysia personally,

But knowing how he prices on 'worse' stuffs, I don't wanna bother to visit though!

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Re: The Ren Fu Collection excavations information/research

by heliospace » Dec 11th, '14, 11:46

I ask this question because I am friends with them on a social media network and they put a lot of random information out there. I was curious what others' takes were on them as an entity. They mention the big bad three often that many others are aware (I personally don't know who the big bad three are...), those who are selling fakes, and that magick number of 95% being fakes of pre-daogung. Anyway, thanks for sharing the viewpoints. The capslock button does seem stuck. I actually received a response from one of them that says the book is due out by the end of January, and we can acquire a copy here in the United States, too as they will ship copies here. So that's cool. I am interested in the literature so it will be on my to buy list. Oh, and that darn capslock key :D :D :D

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Re: The Ren Fu Collection excavations information/research

by Evan Draper » Dec 11th, '14, 12:27

post links plz

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Re: The Ren Fu Collection excavations information/research

by chrl42 » Dec 11th, '14, 20:10

heliospace wrote:I ask this question because I am friends with them on a social media network and they put a lot of random information out there. I was curious what others' takes were on them as an entity. They mention the big bad three often that many others are aware (I personally don't know who the big bad three are...), those who are selling fakes, and that magick number of 95% being fakes of pre-daogung. Anyway, thanks for sharing the viewpoints. The capslock button does seem stuck. I actually received a response from one of them that says the book is due out by the end of January, and we can acquire a copy here in the United States, too as they will ship copies here. So that's cool. I am interested in the literature so it will be on my to buy list. Oh, and that darn capslock key :D :D :D
I wonder Big Three means 'Three Period (Kangxi-Yongzheng-Qianlong, circa 17~18c)?, Yixings come out these days are the most pricey,

BTW, from what I know, they are not Yixing specialists, I know they have sought for excavations for long and been dealing real goods but that's that way, plus they deal many excavations not just Yixing.

The fame of them and goods mostly come from the fact that most excavations don't lie (on authentication), anyway you might be surprised that many of excavation seekers and antique dealers don't really understand Yixings or know how to authenticate..yet they have 'routes' to collect some true stuffs...that's all I know....peace.

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Re: The Ren Fu Collection excavations information/research

by kyarazen » Dec 11th, '14, 20:43

chrl42 wrote:most excavations don't lie (on authentication)
thats interesting to hear

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Re: The Ren Fu Collection excavations information/research

by chrl42 » Dec 11th, '14, 20:51

kyarazen wrote:
chrl42 wrote:most excavations don't lie (on authentication)
thats interesting to hear
Excavations mostly come from tombs or during the constructions..these excavations could hardly have fake stuffs..

Something with some earths on or found from house backyards...they hardly call it a excavation...you already know that :mrgreen:

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Re: The Ren Fu Collection excavations information/research

by William » Dec 12th, '14, 08:03

chrl42 wrote:
kyarazen wrote:
chrl42 wrote:most excavations don't lie (on authentication)
thats interesting to hear
Excavations mostly come from tombs or during the constructions..these excavations could hardly have fake stuffs..

Something with some earths on or found from house backyards...they hardly call it a excavation...you already know that :mrgreen:
If someone has done the same thing that have been done in southern Italy's archaeological sites for the last decades, well let's say that excavations do not prove anything! :mrgreen:

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Re: The Ren Fu Collection excavations information/research

by heliospace » Dec 12th, '14, 12:41

chrl42 wrote:
heliospace wrote:I ask this question because I am friends with them on a social media network and they put a lot of random information out there. I was curious what others' takes were on them as an entity. They mention the big bad three often that many others are aware (I personally don't know who the big bad three are...), those who are selling fakes, and that magick number of 95% being fakes of pre-daogung. Anyway, thanks for sharing the viewpoints. The capslock button does seem stuck. I actually received a response from one of them that says the book is due out by the end of January, and we can acquire a copy here in the United States, too as they will ship copies here. So that's cool. I am interested in the literature so it will be on my to buy list. Oh, and that darn capslock key :D :D :D
I wonder Big Three means 'Three Period (Kangxi-Yongzheng-Qianlong, circa 17~18c)?, Yixings come out these days are the most pricey,

BTW, from what I know, they are not Yixing specialists, I know they have sought for excavations for long and been dealing real goods but that's that way, plus they deal many excavations not just Yixing.

The fame of them and goods mostly come from the fact that most excavations don't lie (on authentication), anyway you might be surprised that many of excavation seekers and antique dealers don't really understand Yixings or know how to authenticate..yet they have 'routes' to collect some true stuffs...that's all I know....peace.
By the big three, they (Ren Fu) are referring to entities that are selling old zishahu teapots for lots of money that are not authentic. With the claim that 95% of the antique ancient yixing teapots on market are in fact, fake.

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