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RECOMMENDATION: Yixing teapots

by Johnny Canuck » Dec 15th, '14, 19:38

Hello,

I am quite new and just learning about Yixing teapots. For single person use, what qualities should I be looking for in a teapot, i.e. size, material, shape, price-range, retailer and manufacturer?

I went to AliExpress, which ships to Canada and got over 8,000 hits!

http://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?cat ... ing+teapot

How am I suppose to know, which ones are bad, good, very good or excellent?

If you can provide some high-quality examples with webpages, I would be appreciative.

Thank you,

Johnny Canuck :D

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Re: RECOMMENDATION: Yixing teapots

by chrl42 » Dec 15th, '14, 22:18

looks like Taobao stuffs?

These kinds of teapot are produced quite a mass today..but it's ok for daily use....peace. :D

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Re: RECOMMENDATION: Yixing teapots

by .m. » Dec 16th, '14, 04:35

Hi, for a beginning I'd go with a nice porcelain teapot cca 100ml with a multiple hole strainer on the inside of the spout and a wide enough opening on the top. Easy to use and clean, and good for experimenting with brewing in small quantities with repeated steeping. Or simply a gaiwan.

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Re: RECOMMENDATION: Yixing teapots

by Noonie » Dec 16th, '14, 05:35

Try taotealeaf in Toronto (they ship for free on $35 and over). If they don't show the pots available on their site, give them a call.

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Re: RECOMMENDATION: Yixing teapots

by Johnny Canuck » Dec 16th, '14, 14:54

Hi, not many recommendations, may I enquire what is wrong? :?

Thanks,

JC

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Re: RECOMMENDATION: Yixing teapots

by Jaymo » Dec 16th, '14, 15:20

Part of the lack of response is probably due to there being many threads about this very same topic (beginner Yixing advice) on the forums already.

The more one looks into them, the less there are any easy answers, but a good place to start in finding a specific pot is the TeaSwap section of these forums. To find more information, try searching here on TeaChat to look for the many threads already available to you on the topic.

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Re: RECOMMENDATION: Yixing teapots

by Chip » Dec 16th, '14, 15:44

Yes, a search of TeaChat for yixing will reveal many topics that could be checked out.

It would be helpful to search products online or in stores and present some options for members to comment on. :idea:

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Re: RECOMMENDATION: Yixing teapots

by Johnny Canuck » Dec 17th, '14, 05:36

Hi, I did a search on TeaChat and I do not see much about recommending Yixing teapots. Especially, for westerners wanting them. Difficult to know which YTs are any good, there are so many on the market. :(

Thanks,

JC

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Re: RECOMMENDATION: Yixing teapots

by miig » Dec 17th, '14, 11:42

Well one thing is that this is a very complicated subject and there are quite a few different opinions.
Basically, its very simple: A good pot will have good clay and good craftsmanship, thats all. So, what is a good clay? Also easy. One that brews good tea. What is good tea? Well, now it gets complicated.
What is good craftsmanship? Answer 1: Manufacturing a pot so that it performs well: It doesn't leak, pours out in a straight stream without dripping and doesn't take too long to empty the pot.
Answer 2: Manufacturing a pot so that it satisfies aesthetic expectations. What, then is an aesthetic pot? You get the idea :)

Then, there are long discussions about which clay types are good, whether clay types are relevant at all, which forms are good, wheter form matters at all and so on and so forth. There aren't many simple, clear-cut answers if you go into this matter.. but if you start reading up on it, some things will emerge that will make more sense for you.

What I remember very well is that Chinese people tend to say that even they don't understand Yixing, or to say it in a less metaphorical way, that you need to handle and compare pots for a long time to develop your own preferences.
I agree that its not always easy to find the good topics, you'll need to use the search engine for a while, skim a number of topics. You'll discard lots of topics quickly, and then the gems will start to emerge.

I am just an amateur, not even Chinese :D
But what I'D say is: Yixing is a fun thing to play around, but people tend to take this way too seriously. It worked out very well for me to just use porcelain pots and gaiwans for a couple of years and get acquainted with the teas itself... try different methods of preparation and so on.
Doesn't mean that you can't enjoy them now, but it means that I personally would advice against taking all these rules and pieces of advice too seriously, you know? A lot of this is open to interpretation, its a hobby, its fun... you try things, play around, discover... some things work out marvellously, some are turn out to be a waste of time (and, inevitably, money).
Still, one piece of advice: I wouldn't buy a cheap yixing. These won't kill you, but at least I don't enjoy them at all. Spend at least 100$ on a pot from a reputable vendor, or stick with a porcelain pot or Gaiwan. And now, some people will say that you get only crap for 100$ and others will say that this is far too much money already... this is what I established and so, I'm forwarding it to you. Only you can tell whether this makes sense or not...

Sorry for the long text - maybe it illustrates how opaque the whole subject is, to me at least :mrgreen:
Don't forget: Its a hobby, its about trying out and discovering, and having fun in the process. So, I wish you a lot of fun discovering the tea world and trying out many interesting teas, ways of preparation, and vessels of preparation :) :) :)

all my best regards!

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Re: RECOMMENDATION: Yixing teapots

by Poseidon » Dec 18th, '14, 09:16

^ best response. No one can tell you what to do or what to get. Just use common sense. Obviously a 10 dollar pot on ebay isnt as top quality as a 100 pot from an online store. I have both and Ill say this: They both brew tea. :lol:

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Re: RECOMMENDATION: Yixing teapots

by wert » Dec 18th, '14, 09:26

miig wrote:Well one thing is that this is a very complicated subject and there are quite a few different opinions.
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I think this should be sticky...in whole or in parts.

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Re: RECOMMENDATION: Yixing teapots

by Bef » Dec 18th, '14, 11:58

wert wrote:
miig wrote:Well one thing is that this is a very complicated subject and there are quite a few different opinions.
*SNIP*
*SNIP*
I think this should be sticky...in whole or in parts.
+1.

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