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Asking the dentist?

by futurebird » Jan 6th, '15, 21:58

So... I've been trying to think of who might have the skills to fix a chip in a spout of a teapot with gold or silver or some other metal....

What about a dentist?

And maybe dental supplies are the way to go...

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Re: Asking the dentist?

by theroots » Jan 7th, '15, 04:56

What you're looking for is a person who knows how to fix with Kintsugi. They fix with lacquer and a coat powdered gold/silver. So the gold/silver is just one layer. I think there are some Kintsugi-craftsman in the United States. Here a some examples of my Kintsugi-Objects:



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by futurebird » Jan 7th, '15, 08:26

I do Kintsugi. Fixing the a spout chip is very difficult because of the extensive modeling required. Urishi is a semi liquid tar-like substance and it can fix areas that one can "flow" it over. (like the bowl chip you have shown) it is hard to make sharp corners. (not impossible)

But I'm trying to think outside of the box/teapot here. :lol:

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Re: Asking the dentist?

by theroots » Jan 7th, '15, 08:51

I agree it isn't easy but possible if you're using tonoko or similar materials. So if somebody is really used to work with kintsugi he'll be able to fix that. Looking for a good kintsugi-artist will still be the easiest solution. :wink:

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Re: Asking the dentist?

by JBaymore » Jan 7th, '15, 15:41

theroots wrote:Looking for a good kintsugi-artist will still be the easiest solution. :wink:
And it will be the very expensive solution for real traditional kintsugi work with real gold.

Also note here there are two ways it can be done..... one is goid leaf pressed onto the tacky surface of the urushi. That is the "cheaper" (but still not cheap) solution...and is less durable. The good repairs are done with gold powder actually mixed into the urushi layer. Very durable.

There are fake gold powders that are used. Not as durable.

Note that real urushi dries to an amazingly hard durable substance that is pretty stable when it comes to things like leaching. And also note that gold is non-toxic if ingested. Not so for stuff like bronze, copper, and other metals or the compounds in polymers and epoxies.

Using non-gold and urushi is like wearing costume jewelry versus the real deal.

Here is a place that does mainly lower cost repairs: http://www.lakesidepottery.com/Pages/po ... epair.html

Tell em' I sent ya'.

And note THEIR prices... for the "lower cost" concept to put this in the proper frame of reference.

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Re: Asking the dentist?

by 茶藝-TeaArt08 » Jan 7th, '15, 16:49

Thank you John for the link to Lakeside Pottery.

Brandon I saw a link I believe, a while back, to a piece you had repaired. Thank you for the connection to Zedo.

In December I returned from six weeks in Taiwan and have a good connection to a gentleman in Taiwan. I took a visiting friend to his shop; she was wanting to purchase a repaired piece from him and bought a beautiful repaired teacup. I have seen him fix many a teapot spout, lid, etc. in his tea ware/repair shop and, in fact, have two pots (one with a spout chip and one with a lid chip) that will be going to him when I return to Taiwan this spring. His price is more affordable and he is a gifted repairman working in the traditional Chinese method. I have tea with he and his wife when I am in Taiwan and they are friends of the same Qiu Shan Tang tea circle I exist in when there. If all other options fail I can connect you to him. But I would recommend tracing down the other more plausible options available here in the U.S. first.

There is also David Pike (http://www.studiokotokoto.com/2014/12/1 ... avid-pike/), a Kintsugi specialist living in Japan: (http://www.kintugi.com/). You can check in with him for an estimate if the U.S. leads don't meet your needs.

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Re: Asking the dentist?

by William » Jan 7th, '15, 18:39

茶藝-TeaArt08 wrote:Thank you John for the link to Lakeside Pottery.

Brandon I saw a link I believe, a while back, to a piece you had repaired. Thank you for the connection to Zedo.

In December I returned from six weeks in Taiwan and have a good connection to a gentleman in Taiwan. I took a visiting friend to his shop; she was wanting to purchase a repaired piece from him and bought a beautiful repaired teacup. I have seen him fix many a teapot spout, lid, etc. in his tea ware/repair shop and, in fact, have two pots (one with a spout chip and one with a lid chip) that will be going to him when I return to Taiwan this spring. His price is more affordable and he is a gifted repairman working in the traditional Chinese method. I have tea with he and his wife when I am in Taiwan and they are friends of the same Qiu Shan Tang tea circle I exist in when there. If all other options fail I can connect you to him. But I would recommend tracing down the other more plausible options available here in the U.S. first.

There is also David Pike (http://www.studiokotokoto.com/2014/12/1 ... avid-pike/), a Kintsugi specialist living in Japan: (http://www.kintugi.com/). You can check in with him for an estimate if the U.S. leads don't meet your needs.

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You experiences are, as always, extremely charming and lovely .. thanks for sharing! :)

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Re: Asking the dentist?

by debunix » Jan 7th, '15, 19:04

Interesting that the Lakeside Pottery estimate form has this note:

"A) Are you aware that the repaired item CANNOT be subjected to liquids, food, scrubbing or temperatures above 150 degree? *"

And there is a little drop-down menu offering 2 options: (1) yes, use is for display only OR (2) no, I did not read the above.

I thought traditional Kintsugi was up to boiling tea temperatures. Is this disclaimer perhaps only applicable to the non-Kintsugi items?

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Re: Asking the dentist?

by JBaymore » Jan 7th, '15, 20:24

Deb,

That is why I mentioned the use of REAL urushi and REAL gold.

If you want to USE this stuff...... you don't want fake gold colored bronze and plastics as filler / binder.

I think most people that want them to repair stuff are not willing to take their REAL kintsugi repair prices.

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Re: Asking the dentist?

by kyarazen » Jan 7th, '15, 21:07

futurebird wrote:So... I've been trying to think of who might have the skills to fix a chip in a spout of a teapot with gold or silver or some other metal....

What about a dentist?

And maybe dental supplies are the way to go...
if you have a taiwanese friend to help you with the logistics, this guy does incredibly fantastic work on teaware repairs...

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004451341768

view pictures at :
https://www.facebook.com/pages/%E4%B8%A ... 8130573874
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Re: Asking the dentist?

by 茶藝-TeaArt08 » Jan 9th, '15, 02:16

For anyone with Mandarin ability or whom would like to ever visit the space, here's the connection information for the gentleman in Taizhong, Taiwan. Their space is across the street from the National Taiwan Museum of Fine Arts (國立台灣美術館). He is quite possibly the most slow and quiet being I have ever met. It certainly suits his profession. He and his wife sell Japanese antique teaware and tea. His wife teaches chayi/茶藝 in a pleasant tea room above the shop while her husband works downstairs in the back of the shop repairing teapots:

”漱草堂“ (shu4 cao3 tang2)
茶道具,鋦藝,茶道與花藝教學
台中市五權西二街14號
ph#(04)23752685
cell# “央谷” 0923894213
“儀芳” 0930990839

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