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Re: Not my F1 Yixing, Wished it Were!!

by kyarazen » Jul 27th, '15, 09:15

AT333 wrote: 吐黑 happen often to those pots dug from cemetery. The spooky black verticle lines often appear when the pot is use to brew tea. It is hard to rub off but there ways to do it. I am curious if the ben shan lini 吐黑 is the same or different type of vomit :mrgreen:
hmm.. not necessarily all the time though. it especially happens to duan or benshan, and a well fired duan-ni, just a nice yellow before it goes orange, is a state where it wouldnt really tu-hei. but if on the lower firing side.. it happens when the pot meets tea! i think of it to be some reduction going on with reaction to the tea over time. it seems that the firing of duan/ben is quite a narrow margin and the temp gradient in the kiln may seem to have certain effects, together with the neutral state of the ware (cyclic oxi/redox in d.kiln), it seems that many many many many many of the ROC and earlier Duan/Bens end up vomitting.

on the other hand, excavated pots are not necessarily low fired, but instead if it is buried somewhere water logged, it will 退窑 (recede fire) over time, turning the zhuni or hong ni into something that resembles shantou ni texture.. but if buried in appropriate "containers" or appropriate locations where water drains away, the pot that remains dry will come out quite decent. thats perhaps why some of the early/mid qing pieces are so expensive and so beautiful, whilst others from the same era, despite being old, have receded firing and that affects its tea potential and overall aesthetic etc.

in principle, possible to get rid of the tu hei spots if one reacts the pot chemically with something.. but thats a different issue altogether

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Re: Not my F1 Yixing, Wished it Were!!

by kyarazen » Jul 27th, '15, 14:10

RARE RARE RARE!
and beautiful. courtesy of BZH again~

end 60s, early 70s hong ni taijian. very small production numbers

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would love to have one :wink: lets see if i can find something in my upcoming trip to taiwan again~

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Re: Not my F1 Yixing, Wished it Were!!

by inge » Aug 1st, '15, 12:00

Great looking spout on that last one!

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Re: Not my F1 Yixing, Wished it Were!!

by kyarazen » Aug 1st, '15, 12:35

inge wrote:Great looking spout on that last one!
But the lid is quite drippy :p wide mouth, flat pot :shock:

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Re: Not my F1 Yixing, Wished it Were!!

by kyarazen » Aug 8th, '15, 02:39

hmm...

does this have a role to play in yixing?

http://newsoffice.mit.edu/2015/rainfall ... osols-0114

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Re: Not my F1 Yixing, Wished it Were!!

by kyarazen » Aug 9th, '15, 14:26

enjoying some pigeon beaks courtesy of wu yung chi of penghu~

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only made in 茄zini and zini, never in hong ni in the 60s.

60s gezui too, have the most elegant looking spout.
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towards the end 60s to early 70s, the spout was still quite elegant~. the 90 degree handle versions are often made of 茄zini
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the first hongni gezui apparently appeared first in the 70s.
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the filter is 18 holes, and usually remained to be so for the early 70s. towards mid to late 70s, 14 holes became more common.

end 70s-80s the spout and lid moulds became different and thus distinguishable.

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Re: Not my F1 Yixing, Wished it Were!!

by Bef » Aug 9th, '15, 20:35

About pigeon beak - did holes remained common also after 70s?

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Re: Not my F1 Yixing, Wished it Were!!

by kyarazen » Aug 10th, '15, 03:28

Bef wrote:About pigeon beak - did holes remained common also after 70s?
common as in?

i've not seen a single hole pigeon personally yet and it is so far not known to exist, these pots are either 18 or 14 holed

between the F1 production period of 60s to early 80s, it was just a gradual transition between 18 holes to 14 holes. the last 18 hole was seen in early green label era ('78-82) but uncommon, the first 14 hole was seen probably mid 70s or so and most common in the green label era

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Re: Not my F1 Yixing, Wished it Were!!

by jpo1933 » Aug 10th, '15, 14:29

Was the side handled zini intended for the Japanese market?
Can't say I'm a fan :o

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Re: Not my F1 Yixing, Wished it Were!!

by steanze » Aug 10th, '15, 16:12

kyarazen wrote:hmm...

does this have a role to play in yixing?

http://newsoffice.mit.edu/2015/rainfall ... osols-0114

:X
interesting stuff :) could affect the aroma coming up from a yixing after pouring the water in. But as soon as there is enough water, new water would fall on more water rather than the porous bottom of the pot. So it might only have an influence towards the beginning of the pour :)

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Re: Not my F1 Yixing, Wished it Were!!

by steanze » Aug 10th, '15, 16:13

kyarazen wrote:RARE RARE RARE!
and beautiful. courtesy of BZH again~

end 60s, early 70s hong ni taijian. very small production numbers

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would love to have one :wink: lets see if i can find something in my upcoming trip to taiwan again~
Beautiful pot. Looks perfect for yancha if the pour is fast.

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Re: Not my F1 Yixing, Wished it Were!!

by steanze » Aug 10th, '15, 16:14

kyarazen wrote:enjoying some pigeon beaks courtesy of wu yung chi of penghu~

60s Ge Zui
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only made in 茄zini and zini, never in hong ni in the 60s.

the filter is 18 holes, and usually remained to be so for the early 70s. towards mid to late 70s, 14 holes became more common.

end 70s-80s the spout and lid moulds became different and thus distinguishable.
茄zini 8)

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Re: Not my F1 Yixing, Wished it Were!!

by chrl42 » Aug 10th, '15, 20:50

jpo1933 wrote:Was the side handled zini intended for the Japanese market?
Can't say I'm a fan :o
Pretty much it could be, those days those SPs were intended for Japanese and SE asian markets :D

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Re: Not my F1 Yixing, Wished it Were!!

by kyarazen » Aug 18th, '15, 13:08

yumz. "da chang kuan" or big long seal. courtesy of bro He Yue, taiwan.

~30s-40s? 5 cup volume. zhu? 8)
fully handmade shuiping

which reminded me of my recent trip.. there is someone whom has a whole drawer full of these pots!!!

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Re: Not my F1 Yixing, Wished it Were!!

by jpo1933 » Dec 8th, '15, 15:13

This thread needs some new blood(clay?)
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A 2 cup 1950's shui ping courtesy of tea for you.
Possibly handmade?...

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