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Already busted first pot - replacement ideas?

by Bubba_tea » Aug 23rd, '08, 11:26

:cry:

My rishi dragonegg qing shui ni pot was knocked off the counter by somebody who goes unnamed... :(

And now I'm looking for another in the $30-$50 range. The rishi pot had an air-tight lid (no drip with air hole covered) and I was happy with the quality. I liked the color of the qing shi ni clay - but handling wasn't great of the dragonegg - maybe crown pearl next time...

Couple of questions:

Rishi has 'qing shi ni', 'duan ni', 'hong ni', and 'zi sha' pots - is there any performance difference in the pots, or just color differences? Their prices seem very good considering cost of shipping from 5000friend.

Kam is going to be shipping me something from funalliance - that might be a good option - how are their pots related to the above vendors.

Finally - Tao of Tea has a 'Zhu Ni' Lu Yu pot that looks good - but @ $30 I'm sure isn't real Zhu Ni - regardless, any comments about the quality?

Cheers

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by chamekke » Aug 23rd, '08, 11:32

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God, I am such an old hippie. Your heading gave me entirely the wrong impression... :shock:

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by joelbct » Aug 23rd, '08, 11:50

chamekke wrote:<OT>

God, I am such an old hippie. Your heading gave me entirely the wrong impression... :shock:

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lolol ;) those crazy canucks!

Bubba, as a disclaimer I collect Japanese teaware not Chinese, but here are a few Yixing Sites:

yixing.com

teapotmart

Dragon Tea House, Yixing

Yunnan Sourcing, Yixing

Latter two will be cost-effective, but delivery time will be 3-5 weeks. Good luck!

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by MMaas » Aug 23rd, '08, 12:31

You may want to take a look at 1001 plateaus as well - they have a great range of pots and oustanding service

-Mucho

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Re: Already busted first pot - replacement ideas?

by chrl42 » Aug 23rd, '08, 12:39

Bubba_tea wrote::cry:

My rishi dragonegg qing shui ni pot was knocked off the counter by somebody who goes unnamed... :(

And now I'm looking for another in the $30-$50 range. The rishi pot had an air-tight lid (no drip with air hole covered) and I was happy with the quality. I liked the color of the qing shi ni clay - but handling wasn't great of the dragonegg - maybe crown pearl next time...

Couple of questions:

Rishi has 'qing shi ni', 'duan ni', 'hong ni', and 'zi sha' pots - is there any performance difference in the pots, or just color differences? Their prices seem very good considering cost of shipping from 5000friend.

Kam is going to be shipping me something from funalliance - that might be a good option - how are their pots related to the above vendors.

Finally - Tao of Tea has a 'Zhu Ni' Lu Yu pot that looks good - but @ $30 I'm sure isn't real Zhu Ni - regardless, any comments about the quality?

Cheers
There is a difference cos 4 clays come from different part of ore.

Qing Shui ni locates the mid-bottom of yixing ore below layers of 'normal clay' that uses for typical ceramics. Is of unfiltered clays that has many huge particles, and that is capable of absorbing quality.

Duan ni is a mixture of Zi ni and Lu ni. Manytime it's contained with artificial colors to cheap Zi ni(since Lu ni is hard to find). Generally Duan ni also is very powerful in absorbing.

Hong ni is one that contains many iron and most of time it's of small particles. For example, Xiao Hong ni and Zhu ni. Da Hong ni from Huang Long mountain is of bigger particle but comparably less 'breathing' quality than above 2 clays.

Zi ni is most common clay that shows brownish color. Many time it's of mixed stuff such as manganese, iron, quartz..there are numerous type of Zi ni but most of time it's just mixed normal yixing clay.

So you need to pair a character to a tea you want to drink. If you regard aroma as high point, then you need to go dense and small clay like Zhuni or Hong ni.

Or if you like mild taste then other clays will be a fit.

Just don't be deceived by numerous 'fake' yixing teapots that use cheap mud contained with harmful industrial dyes. Good luck.

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by betta » Aug 23rd, '08, 12:50

Anything here interest you?

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by orguz » Aug 23rd, '08, 13:23

betta wrote:Anything here interest you?
what do you think of this one

http://www.imperialtea.com/AB1002000Sto ... egory_ID=8

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by Thirsty Daruma » Aug 23rd, '08, 13:53

I've been shopping for Yixing for awhile now, and have been really impressed/depressed by the general price of a Yixing, quality and art notwithstanding. But I noticed Rishi's Yixing offerings seemed relatively affordable. Is there an issue of quality there?

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by orguz » Aug 23rd, '08, 15:16

Thirsty Daruma wrote: But I noticed Rishi's Yixing offerings seemed relatively affordable. Is there an issue of quality there?
i bought a flat wide mouth zhuni from them back in march, i like the quality.
it's very thin walled (bao tai). i made the lighter oxidised, flowery oolongs, even heavy roast TGY, and oriental beauty in it. they all turned out great. I think they have one left; the zhuni pear shaped with 7 holes filter. i would have bought more then one from them, but there are none that are 4oz or smaller.

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Re: Already busted first pot - replacement ideas?

by Bubba_tea » Aug 23rd, '08, 15:29

chrl42 wrote:Zi ni is most common clay that shows brownish color. Many time it's of mixed stuff such as manganese, iron, quartz..there are numerous type of Zi ni but most of time it's just mixed normal yixing clay.

So you need to pair a character to a tea you want to drink. If you regard aroma as high point, then you need to go dense and small clay like Zhuni or Hong ni.

Or if you like mild taste then other clays will be a fit.

Just don't be deceived by numerous 'fake' yixing teapots that use cheap mud contained with harmful industrial dyes. Good luck.
I'll avoid the $12 lao zhu ni pot then :lol:

Another very informative post chrl42 - thanks! I don't understand the relationship with character of tea prefered and the clay used. I do like the aroma, sweet aftertaste, and will use the pot for roasted tky, dan cong, other oolongs as needed - so the non-absorbing pots sound like a better fit since I prefer aroma and a bold flavor.. I'm not really a subtle kind of guy!

The Imperial Tea pots y'all mentioned sound fine - but the exceed my price range by a ways... there's a number of pots that Guang has for sale that also look excellent!!

Anyone have a comment about the "zhu ni" pot I mentioned above at Tao of Tea? I haven't heard much about them as teapot vendors.

Best rgds!

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by RussianSoul » Aug 23rd, '08, 16:21

I own the Lu Yu teapot from Tao of Tea. It is very pretty teapot. It is very thin-walled and very shiny, and has concentric circles inside indicating it is made on a wheel. Based on this I believe it is a Taiwanese or Chaozhou clay teapot, not an YiXing.

I also have some reservations about the taste of the tea it makes. I am not sure how to describe it exactly, but the taste seems to be not as full or rich as my other two YiXing pots produce.

I can vouch for my Rishi teapot. I have their Yixing Oriental Beauty (Zini), and while it is also wheel-made, I like the tea it makes. http://www.rishi-tea.com/store/product. ... =11&page=1.

The Rishi website has its volume listed as 6.8 oz or 200ml, but it is a mistake. This pot is 150ml or 5oz (measured by me.)

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